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7-4-2007 2:02 AM
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7-4-2007 8:51 PM
BartendingBear
I popped for the picture in the clip alone, let alone the truths spoken above it.
7-4-2007 9:17 PM
tidbit2
What happens if a soldier refuses to go to iraq?
7-4-2007 10:51 PM
ratilfar
Jail and a dishonorable discharge. Bad for discipline. If you enlist, you have to go. It is up to the citizens of a Nation, through their voices and leadership to decide where he goes and what he does once he gets there.
7-5-2007 12:57 AM
indolin
What you call a failure of discipline I call a success of democracy. The American revolution was a failure of discipline, so was the civil rights movement, etc. Think about it.
7-5-2007 1:20 AM
BobbyRutan
Link -> The U.S. military rarely tracks down deserters.

FT. BRAGG, N.C. -- Despite a rise in desertions from the Army as the Iraq war lengthens to a fifth year, the U.S. military does almost nothing to find those who flee and rarely prosecutes those it gets its hands on.

An Associated Press examination of Pentagon figures shows that 174 troops were court-martialed by the Army last year for desertion -- a figure that amounts to 5% of the 3,301 soldiers who deserted in fiscal year 2006. The figures are about 1% or less for the Navy and the Marines.

Some deserters are allowed to return to their un...
7-5-2007 1:22 AM
agrmax
nice
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7-6-2007 11:49 AM
sparlingphoto
And Bush shits
on them daily, every time he opens his piehole and talks about
supporting the troops and how friggin noble this ‘mission’ is. What
balls this man has. The Federal Fuckwits increase the length of tours
without batting an eye.
I read the entire opinion. While I don't disagree with the general premise, when I got to the paragraph above, the writer lost her credibility. The lack of civility by many on the far left causes their opines to be dismissed as nothing more than irrational rants.
7-6-2007 12:05 PM
sparlingphoto
With my niece in harms way in Afghanistan, I have the right to feel
this way about George Bush’s war and what it is doing to every man and
woman that is fighting it.
So Afghanistan is also an unworthy area for our soldiers to be in? The writer has the right to "feel" any way she wants regardless of whether she has a relative in "harms way". The unvarnished truth is that she probably wouldn't support any war, anywhere, under any circumstances.

What should we be doing to combat these Neanderthals? I never hear what we should do...only what we are doing wrong. Maybe we should just timidly go about our business and pretend that THEY AREN"T TRYING TO EXTERMINATE ANYONE WHO DOESN"T FOLLOW MUHAMMED!
7-6-2007 12:07 PM
Thorne
Ehhh, Sparling. I know. It's a problem. I think though, that alot of peeps are so pissed off by now that they just don't have anything else, ya know??? It's kinda crazy. I see alot of usually reasonable and level headed bloggers, for instance, just going off! I think alot of americans right now feel disempowered by the last few years' shennanigans, by their inability to/or difficulty of separating spin from fact. I know that it's terribly time consuming to try to get the "facts" on anything. Everybody in the news, whether broadcast or print, puts their spin on every story. Same with every op/ed piece, of course. And the extremes of either right or left are wearying, no?
7-6-2007 12:35 PM
Thorne
What should we be doing to combat these Neanderthals? I never hear what
we should do...only what we are doing wrong. Maybe we should just
timidly go about our business and pretend that THEY AREN"T TRYING TO EXTERMINATE ANYONE WHO DOESN"T FOLLOW MUHAMMED!
But isn't the above statement just as extremist. sparling darling?? And wouldn't you agree that we've been told so many lies (not just by Bush&Co... this middle east crap goes waaaayyyy back, yes??) that it makes it a bit difficult to discern what the real issue is?? If we even take a casual look at our meddling in the middle east over the past 20+ years, it really does seem that our govt's justifications for ...
7-6-2007 1:01 PM
Thorne
(oops) angry rhetoric slinging.
7-9-2007 9:59 AM
pokkets
Getting angry feeds the fire. There is a phrase "Putting out a fire with gasoline." I started to get angry, until it occurred to me that the corruption is laying the seeds of its own destruction. The reason for the fall of past empires. The United States is not united. The Administration has excavated an exclusive position, and tacit censorship is used to prevent the people contradicting the government line. They deal power in the shadows. There needs to be a spotlight. People need to look for the truth, rather than accept what is being told.
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