Don't you all know who is responsible for EVERYONE of these death? Surely you know the strings that are attached to your aid.

Some of the remarks made here are RACIST and should be withdrawn now.

These poor countries are not in any position to balance the lives of a number of unfortunate women and their families against the BLACKMAIL exerted by your government for the implementation of inhumane religious sectarian racist decrees.

How can I in Ireland know these things and you appear not to? Anyway this lack of knowledge does not excuse the RACISM. Do you think that because they are not American they love their citizen, women, mothers, wives or sisters l...

Don't you all know who is responsible for EVERYONE of these death? Surely you know the strings that are attached to your aid.

Some of the remarks made here are RACIST and should be withdrawn now.

These poor countries are not in any position to balance the lives of a number of unfortunate women and their families against the BLACKMAIL exerted by your government for the implementation of inhumane religious sectarian racist decrees.

How can I in Ireland know these things and you appear not to? Anyway this lack of knowledge does not excuse the RACISM. Do you think that because they are not American they love their citizen, women, mothers, wives or sisters less. For god's sake attack the correct target, that bastard Bush and his hate filled version of christianity and his ilk acting on your behalf.

Much thanks to those who defended me. What a shock to find that my remarks merited righthand's response. Apparently he is very passionate about this issue and I appreciate his compassion for this woman, her family and the climate/culture that she lived in.

He wouldn't know me from Adam's housecat, but claims to know that I'm a racist. Hmmmm...... I'm sorry righthand, that you find my remarks sooooo offensive; to the point that you would include your response to this clip into another clip!

In agreement with a previous poster, I do not support abortion as an option to birth control and I, personally, believe that it is used as such in our Country; ie. the US. That being said, I would...

Much thanks to those who defended me. What a shock to find that my remarks merited righthand's response. Apparently he is very passionate about this issue and I appreciate his compassion for this woman, her family and the climate/culture that she lived in.

He wouldn't know me from Adam's housecat, but claims to know that I'm a racist. Hmmmm...... I'm sorry righthand, that you find my remarks sooooo offensive; to the point that you would include your response to this clip into another clip!

In agreement with a previous poster, I do not support abortion as an option to birth control and I, personally, believe that it is used as such in our Country; ie. the US. That being said, I would *never* condemn a woman to death under these circumstances. Done with this.

I was nearly 40 before our first child was born. I'm no advocate of abortion, but regard my views as private. I'm absolutely against the tying of moral question into foreign aid as is the UN and as was Clinton.

Forcing desperate countries and in particular those Latin American ones where you are already responsible for so many deaths, to accept your unchristian fundamentalist doctrine to adopt worse than in America is an poison pill of more death.

Aside from her racist remark, support for this policy is anti-female as is anyone supporting Bush in is implementation.

[i]The Christian Right's agenda...

I was nearly 40 before our first child was born. I'm no advocate of abortion, but regard my views as private. I'm absolutely against the tying of moral question into foreign aid as is the UN and as was Clinton.

Forcing desperate countries and in particular those Latin American ones where you are already responsible for so many deaths, to accept your unchristian fundamentalist doctrine to adopt worse than in America is an poison pill of more death.

Aside from her racist remark, support for this policy is anti-female as is anyone supporting Bush in is implementation.

The Christian Right's agenda extends to restricting women's rights to work, equality before the law, education, and freedom from a range of gender-based human rights abuses, including domestic battery and marital rape. And the Christian Right's "vision" goes beyond attacks on any narrowly construed notion of "women's rights." They're angling for more of the kind of messianic militarism that characterized Bush's response to 9/11 (which he originally called a "crusade"), and more neoliberal economic policies that promise greater ruin to the world's poor people and ecology.

I did find this article though from the "other side of the isle"

Yes, I was aware of this attempt to address the balance or imbalance. It is like when Bush came to Europe to announce his intention to place missiles in Poland supposedly to hit incoming from Asia. Russia responded as would be expected. Sometimes fire with fire although not not by preference when dealing with a warmonger like Bush as you only further encourage him. Or like Rice lecturing foreign governments on democracy when the world sees 'democracy' in action in Iraq, Israel, and at home. Such hypocrisy.

[url=http://www.madre.org/articles/usfp/christianright.5.07.html]Religious fundamentalism[/ur...

I did find this article though from the "other side of the isle"

Yes, I was aware of this attempt to address the balance or imbalance. It is like when Bush came to Europe to announce his intention to place missiles in Poland supposedly to hit incoming from Asia. Russia responded as would be expected. Sometimes fire with fire although not not by preference when dealing with a warmonger like Bush as you only further encourage him. Or like Rice lecturing foreign governments on democracy when the world sees 'democracy' in action in Iraq, Israel, and at home. Such hypocrisy.

Religious fundamentalism was invented by US Protestants at the end of the 19th century, but now, there are powerful fundamentalist movements in Latin America, Eastern Europe, Africa, the Middle East, and South Asia all working to restrict women's rights in the name of religion.

Under Bush, religious fundamentalists have been appointed to represent the US at international health and human rights conferences. They have allied with the Vatican (which enjoys a quasi-governmental status in the UN), Iran, and others seeking to unravel and reshape the UN agenda.

Strange bedfellows - Bush, the Vatican and Iran!!!

Okay, the reason that this clip interested me, was that this is an example of what could possibly happen if "Roe vs. Wade " is reversed. There is a strong movement for it in this country.
If you refer back to the clip

Nicaragua last year became one of 35 countries that ban all abortions, even to save the life of the mother, according to the Center for Reproductive Rights in New York.

This is happening in other countries as well.I haven't had the chance to find out which countries the are yet but I will soon.

Now as topsailangler pointed out( Thanks btw)

Sweden announced

on Tuesday that it would sever aid to several countries that oppose its

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Okay, the reason that this clip interested me, was that this is an example of what could possibly happen if "Roe vs. Wade " is reversed. There is a strong movement for it in this country.
If you refer back to the clip

Nicaragua last year became one of 35 countries that ban all abortions, even to save the life of the mother, according to the Center for Reproductive Rights in New York.

This is happening in other countries as well.I haven't had the chance to find out which countries the are yet but I will soon.

Now as topsailangler pointed out( Thanks btw)

Sweden announced

on Tuesday that it would sever aid to several countries that oppose its

pro-abortion policy, including Nicaragua, Honduras, El Salvador, and

Peru.

There are those countries that are trying to sway this movement. Which is a comfort.

Jumping to such a conclusion with no supporting evidence to me suggests you are the racist in the room. You read jatfla comment and your thoughts were immedialtly plunged into your own racist stereotypes which you then applied to jatfla.

I was hardly bothered dealing with this swiftboating slander. Require the hero to prove the level of his heroism while the commander-in-chief is AWOL holding up a bar. When I saw the source of this pathetic overused fascist Nazi device I rubbed my hands with glee, but left the best to last.

Yesterday 4:38 PM jatfla77
This is Nicaragua.

Yesterday 4:56 PM ljsdesign38
Jatfla, could you please elaborate? [/quo...

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Jumping to such a conclusion with no supporting evidence to me suggests you are the racist in the room. You read jatfla comment and your thoughts were immedialtly plunged into your own racist stereotypes which you then applied to jatfla.

I was hardly bothered dealing with this swiftboating slander. Require the hero to prove the level of his heroism while the commander-in-chief is AWOL holding up a bar. When I saw the source of this pathetic overused fascist Nazi device I rubbed my hands with glee, but left the best to last.

Yesterday 4:38 PM jatfla77
This is Nicaragua.

Yesterday 4:56 PM ljsdesign38
Jatfla, could you please elaborate?

Then my twopence worth followed by...

Yesterday 9:35 PM ljsdesign38
Thank you . I took that the same way. A woman's life is a woman's life no matter what country she hails from.

...so obviously - RACISM unless "we've had geographical and economic. Any other excuse?" If not and you agree with her then obviously you are a RACIST too. Maybe you did not like my ...

Update: Hate Crimes, Racism, Nooses, Swastikas, Semitism, in US

I was hardly bothered dealing with this swiftboating slander. Require the hero to prove the level of his heroism while the commander-in-chief is AWOL, holding up a bar. I saw the source of this pathetic overused fascist Nazi device.

Still some RATS left. Always some left feeding on the führer's scraps. Don't you get it? The emperor has NO cloths. None. His Nazi pedigree has been exposed. My guess is that you would have been a prime candidate for disposal when the original was still kicking about. Were you the one painting up swastikas to switch attention from the racial attack on blacks.

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I was hardly bothered dealing with this swiftboating slander. Require the hero to prove the level of his heroism while the commander-in-chief is AWOL, holding up a bar. I saw the source of this pathetic overused fascist Nazi device.

Still some RATS left. Always some left feeding on the führer's scraps. Don't you get it? The emperor has NO cloths. None. His Nazi pedigree has been exposed. My guess is that you would have been a prime candidate for disposal when the original was still kicking about. Were you the one painting up swastikas to switch attention from the racial attack on blacks.

White America never embraced its own victims like it did embrace Europe's victims, who are still exploiting their victimhood status since to the detriment of the Arabs.

Unless I was NOT white, then whatever else you might accuse me of, racism isn't one that comes remotely close. But as we now know, swiftboating requires the opposite of the truth, so your acting true to type.

zizzy, zizzy, poor man. I really had no idea you had reading comprehension problems. I am sorry, it must be a difficult problem to have when using this particular medium. Let me point out some of your problems, and maybe it can help you in the future.

Speaking for Righthand.

I never spoke for righthand. I would have to say something like this:

"Righthand will be offended by your comments suggesting he is a fool who needs my comments explained to him by you."

Defending Righthand.

I never defended righthand, In fact I pointed out that he was the racist, again.

Now read that a few times, learn, and I am sure it will begin to make ...

zizzy, zizzy, poor man. I really had no idea you had reading comprehension problems. I am sorry, it must be a difficult problem to have when using this particular medium. Let me point out some of your problems, and maybe it can help you in the future.

Speaking for Righthand.

I never spoke for righthand. I would have to say something like this:

"Righthand will be offended by your comments suggesting he is a fool who needs my comments explained to him by you."

Defending Righthand.

I never defended righthand, In fact I pointed out that he was the racist, again.

Now read that a few times, learn, and I am sure it will begin to make sense. Then next time you comment maybe you will do better. I beleive in you, I think you have some potential locked away somewhere in you, you just need to let it out.

Deflecting attention from yourself.

Just keeping the focus on the racist in the thread. Just so you know, I have never refered to any group of human beings as less than human, righthand has. I'm sorry that you feel a need to defend racists.

"All men are created equal". That is not just Americans. It's all men and women. It is the essence of all rights and duties of Americans. Anyone who believes different is not a republican nor an American! That includes the president.

Racism cuts to the very heart of this. A racist is unpatriotic. A true republican cannot be racist against blacks, Nicaragua, Chinese, Irish, Jew, or Arab, whether American or indigenous. All.

Hitler belied in the master race. Do some/many Americans. They are racists. Their masters are careful not to be caught. Their minions are not, as we have seen. These fascist racists wrap themselves in the flag to disguise their racism. They believe they l...

"All men are created equal". That is not just Americans. It's all men and women. It is the essence of all rights and duties of Americans. Anyone who believes different is not a republican nor an American! That includes the president.

Racism cuts to the very heart of this. A racist is unpatriotic. A true republican cannot be racist against blacks, Nicaragua, Chinese, Irish, Jew, or Arab, whether American or indigenous. All.

Hitler belied in the master race. Do some/many Americans. They are racists. Their masters are careful not to be caught. Their minions are not, as we have seen. These fascist racists wrap themselves in the flag to disguise their racism. They believe they love a flag more than any non-white. Racism.

This twist in perversion is probable where their swiftboating tactic came from. Accuse your opponent of your own deep secret flaw.
First you require the hero to prove the degree of his heroism while his opponent, the treacherous coward, was holding up the bars in a drunken stumper during war.
Second is to keep repeating the lie over and over and over in the hope that someone will listen.
Third is were all the other racist, attack you together. Just like we have seen here where it was like a relay gang bang.

Like all bullies, they hunt in packs. Their well tried tactics gives them an appearance of strength far in excess of their true strength. They're usually very intellectually weak probably as they despise intellectual reasoning. Why not? Their bully boy tactic usually have worked. So no need of brain power.

With Bush's loss of clothing, they feel very vulnerable. They are leaderless and rudderless and like their leader they are now extra dangerous. So, dangerous, clueless, racist fascists bullies but the good news is they're diminishing in every way.

Just a thought: the notion of 'human rights' contains within it, and this is so often conceded only in passing, the concept of 'human obligations'. What if the emphasis on the first part of the pair were replaced by an emphasis on the second, so that for instance we spoke of the human obligation of the powerful to defend the weak, the voiceless, the invisible? Because, paradoxically, the strident claim for 'rights' is often a thin disguise to remove the need for obligations. Often, of course, as in the case under discussion, there is no clear moral answer to vexed issues, and I would hate to see an individual in each case 'instructed' by some external dogmatic law, or condemned for making wh...

Just a thought: the notion of 'human rights' contains within it, and this is so often conceded only in passing, the concept of 'human obligations'. What if the emphasis on the first part of the pair were replaced by an emphasis on the second, so that for instance we spoke of the human obligation of the powerful to defend the weak, the voiceless, the invisible? Because, paradoxically, the strident claim for 'rights' is often a thin disguise to remove the need for obligations. Often, of course, as in the case under discussion, there is no clear moral answer to vexed issues, and I would hate to see an individual in each case 'instructed' by some external dogmatic law, or condemned for making what should be a painful and extremely difficult personal decision.

Quoting myself.
So so easy. Bitdrifter makes no attempt to use any intellect at all never mind reasoning. Need I say more than candy from a baby. A dumb computer would be capable of producing better quality argument that this one. Look little one, all the rats have gone, deserted you. Withdraw now and put it down to experience.

I am sorry that you are so filled with racist thoughts that you are unable to comprehend the simple logic that shines a very bright light on your racism. But I didn't truly expect you too, you who classifies groups of people as sub-human, you who immediately conjures up racist stereotypes when you are presented with the name of a country.


You...

Quoting myself.
So so easy. Bitdrifter makes no attempt to use any intellect at all never mind reasoning. Need I say more than candy from a baby. A dumb computer would be capable of producing better quality argument that this one. Look little one, all the rats have gone, deserted you. Withdraw now and put it down to experience.

I am sorry that you are so filled with racist thoughts that you are unable to comprehend the simple logic that shines a very bright light on your racism. But I didn't truly expect you too, you who classifies groups of people as sub-human, you who immediately conjures up racist stereotypes when you are presented with the name of a country.


Your racism sickens me, and your continued denial/defense of your racism sickens me further. You are a bigot and a racist, someone for which all except your fellow racists, bigots and

ignoramuses have contempt for.


But I still hold hope that one day in the future, you will see yourself for the racist and bigot you are and alter your ways so that you no longer think of Nicaraguans and others in terms of your racial stereotypes.