masbury says: Where have you been the last four years? What if someone took them from you? Guantanamo Bay is an all American Death Camp. No more, no less. How proud Americans must be. ~ What gets me is those people who are willing to turn a blind eye. It's the only way, it's for the greater good, we're just protecting ourselves. The ends justify the means. We will ALL have to account for this. One day our children will come to us and ask "why did this happen? How could we have done these things? How could you allow it to happen?" What explanation could we ever give them that would justify it. How would we explain away our own responsibility for why we let it happen and let it continue? Well said, ljsdesign. It is a sobering thought. ljsdesign, I posted your comment on my blog Monte Asbury's Blog. It was too good not to spread around. Thank you Masbury. I really consider that a huge compliment. I really enjoy your clips and comments. Pleasure's mine. And I'm enjoying yours, too! Ah, that’s the awful truth about governments: They do it because we let them do it.I agree with you and ljsdesign.. I do use my voice to correct injustice wherever I can, just as we are doing right now. I do have a problem, though, with us all being blamed for them. "I" am NOT responsible for what our government is doing in "Gitmo"...or an immoral war. I do not accept responsibility for those pathetic atrocities at Gitmo or anywhere else."I" am no part of the "we" in: "How could "we" have done these things? So, with the quest[b]... @ onlinedesign We're doing it right now. Speaking out, for one. It may not seem like much when your only hearing a couple a voices at a time. There are more voices out there, they add together and create a roar. We're acknowledging that these things are wrong, that we don't agree with them and that the government IS NOT listening to us. That we know we are being lied to, and we don't like it. They know they can't ignore us for long. Maybe I'm a little naive. I still believe and have hope for We The People and Democracy. I still think We matter. I think we've taken it for granted for too long, democracy, freedom of speech, people counting. Maybe being on the brink of losing it might bring... I agree with onlinedesign. Short of an uprising or rebellion, we're pretty much at the mercy of our leaders and can hardly do no more than plead for change. Once they're in, they're the boss. Bugger be the people. Gitmo...or an immoral war. I do not accept responsibility for those pathetic atrocitiesI do NOT accept responsibilty for any of it either. No way. If anyone asks me one day in the future what I did to stop it, I too, will reply "All I could honey, ALL I could." I want absolutely no part of it. And ljsdesign is right too. We ARE pretty much doing what we can. (Short of a revolution.) We stay informed, we demonstrate, we keep their email and fax machines busy with ... But I think spreading the word of what the US Govt has been up to is the only way to bring real change. In other words, I think you're doing something really important. The only changes that last are changes that are society-wide, and they happen one person at a time. What leaders do is, I think, only an expression of where their society is. Even Chinese leaders live in fear of a coalescence of public opinion. Keep it up! Keep clipping, keep blogging, keep commenting - for until people realize what's really happened in the name of democracy, they won't put their foot down and say, "No more!" And it happens one person at a time. We will ALL have to account for this. One day our children will come to What explanation could we everOne of the worst violations of the minority white Apartheid Regime was "detention without trial' - the power to arrest and imprison people indefinitely without recourse to law. It's so odd that the United States, so vociferously anti this practice, is now guilty of the exact same offence. (And all the above questions will never be a... No so surprising if you look at who supported the Apartheid regime in the U.S. during the 80's. Mostly Republicans including one Richard "Yes I am a Dick" Bruce Cheney. Interesting point, michellezm: the burden of guilt settles on the shoulders ot the succeeding generationWe struggle with the guilt of our ancestors enslaving of blacks, destruction of native Americans, and general pillaging of the world, yet we didn't do it. Sadly, the next generation can only see that it happened in our time; it becomes a part of the story of all of us, and one more cause for restitution is added to the endless list. Someone eventually pays. The closer it is to the crime, the less likely it is that the restitution comes from innocent descendants of the criminals. But the crimes are committed by the nation, and will be paid for as a nation - that i... The beauty of the web, I believe, is that we can now tell the stories much more broadly and much sooner than ever in history. We can shout. We can teach. And change will happen - still with agonizing slowness, but faster than ever before. I think the goal is not to change the minds of leaders, but to change the minds of millions, one at a time. Leaders only last a little while; change only lasts a little while, unless it is representative of a broad and permanent change of view (think of slavery or civil rights or women suffrage). It happens slowly and in minute increments, but it is happening, and you who write are part of it. |
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