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7-8-2008 10:06 PM
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7-9-2008 3:57 AM
BartendingBear
This is silly. There's nothing suggestive or salicious about the photo.
7-9-2008 7:19 AM
Socratoad
Thank dog its not just me. I clipped this to solicit opinions.

There are good reasons to protect children but IMO this tempest in a teapot is away over the top:


"I can't stand this stuff," said Rudd, a staunch Christian

Methinks he is in need of some therapy.
7-9-2008 9:08 AM
Mohir
As not every photo of a naked lady is pornography, not evrey photo of a naked child is pedophilia.
7-9-2008 11:37 AM
swampfoxz
Very well said folks.I agree totally.Art is something that has been with us since the caves.Anyone who has any brain at all can see this as either appealing or unappealing as a photo,but no more pedophilic than any medieval portrait would be hanging in the Louvre.
7-9-2008 1:37 PM
bignosemousie
I clipped this to solicit opinions.
Okay, I have one.

I don't really see this as pornographic or anything, but as a parent I wouldn't want my daughter's portrait (like this) published. I struggle with my desire to let my daughter grow and become independent and with my fear of the mentally disturbed and/or predatory people out there.

Still, a person can make anything sexual if they try (or without trying, really). I've seen clips about men having sexual encounters with cars and bicycles. So, whereas I can see the art in this photo, as a parent I cringe a little knowing that someone could turn this photo into a sexual encounter (if only in his/her mind).

Okay, let me have it!
7-9-2008 2:42 PM
Socratoad
Okay mousie, here I go

Yours is the type of fI was hoping to receive.

I too realise that there is definitely nothing pornographic in the photo, but like you I had to consider whether I would want a photo of a daughter to be published, or posted on the internet for all to see.

The answer is a resounding NO , for the reasons you have already stated

Another reason that springs to mind is that we do not own our children, and so IMO have no right to publish semi-revealing photos of them for the whole world to ogle at.

A child, such as the beautiful young girl in the photo would have good reason to resent her mother's actions when she becomes more self-aware.

I sincerely hope I'm ...
7-9-2008 3:00 PM
bignosemousie
7-9-2008 7:03 PM
righthand
The concern surely is that a paedophile might use such a photo for gratification and pass it to similar minded friends.

It's a question of us allowing the X% of males who are paedophiles from allowing the rest of society see perfectly proper photos. I suggest that stopping all nudest beaches because X paedophiles might frequent such places. May not this example as a nude paedophile might have difficulty in not displaying his propensity for children's bodies. But I hope you see my point.

All males cannot be tarred with the one brush due to the few who are deviants. Sometimes the friendly uncle-type is difficult to tell from the deviant. If we, the adults cannot tell the good from the bad th...
7-9-2008 7:56 PM
Johanna_G
I. For my liking, that photograph is kitschily beautiful. But I appreciate
II. what Olympia, now 11, said:
"I was really, really offended by what Kevin Rudd said about this picture. It is one of my favourites – if not my favourite – photo my mum has ever taken of me."
Source
III. Nudity is not obscenity. It's the perverted mind that complains or savours nudity as obscenity.
7-9-2008 7:57 PM
Johanna_G
From time to time there is a great fuss made about whether some object is a work of art or pornographic.
Art and (not or) Pornography by DONALD BROOK, Art Monthly Australia #211
[...] ‘[E]very photographic act is now more readily viewable through the prism of victim and abuser, rather than artist and subject.’ [...] ‘Nudity is not obscenity’. [...] ‘It’s a fine line between sensualising and sexualising them [children]’. [...]
Artistic intention and public reception don’t always see eye to eye. Sometimes a work reveals more than the artist intends [...]. Melbourne artist Polixeni Papapetrou, t...
7-9-2008 8:42 PM
pon52mk
i thought it was a painting,.
7-14-2008 2:16 PM
sueofhobart
The concern surely is that a paedophile might use such a photo for gratification and pass it to similar minded friends.
There is no image pure and chaste
that won’t find some perverted taste:
some men may tremble at those sights
of lissome lasses in their whites,
and some derive the keenest joy
from pictures of a well-dressed boy;
some welcome junk-mail with a grin
who favour photographs therein,
and, shunning models, others stare
at images of underwear.
Ought we to ban each catalogue
which might set even one agog,
and should we censor magazines.
which could be used for carnal means?
Thus, if we prove a paedophile
has found some joy in Country Style,
and often rea...
7-14-2008 5:04 PM
Socratoad
The poem above pretty well sums it up methinks.

Thank you very much
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