 righthand says: This is the story of Israel - a stolen land taken from the Palestinians. The Zionist movement was founded on the principle that the Jews deserved a land; a land that they could call their State; their home but they would only be able to identify themselves as a wholly Jewish state at the expense of uprooting an existent civilization, the indigenous Arab population. The Jewish claim to Palestine is based on the existence of a kingdom that reigned for only 414 years. The Jewish kingdoms were only one of many periods of ancient Palestine. There exists the dangerous misconception that opposition to Jewish occupation stems from anti-Semitism. Tensions between Arabs and Jews began after Zionist settlers arrived in the 1880s and had bought land from absentee Arab owners. This led to the dispossession of land that had been cultivated by peasants. In effect, the Zionists were colonizing Arab land. The Zionists probably could not have been so successful in their acquisitions if it weren't In a March 31, 1977 interview with the Amsterdam-based newspaper Dagblad de Verdieping Trouw, PLO executive committee member Zahir Muhse’in said: “The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we posit the existence of a distinct ‘Palestinian people’ to oppose Zionism. For tactical reasons, Jordan, which is a sovereign state with... Are you prepared to back such a ban? By the way, this isn't "A Jew Seeking Justice Again." It's a 5 year old article. At least find something new. Two days ago Bush proposed another big 'Middle East Peace Conference," two state-solution, etc. It's pathetic to even hear again; as if the USA was neutral (no) and as if we haven't heard it all before, and as if it just wasn't another mouthful of meaningless words to stall and stall and stall again and again. Fortunately we didn't have to hear about this very much. The very next day Israel rejected the core of the ideas. The day after that the White House even official 'downplayed,' what they were proposing. So now the Jews are like the Nazis, starving over a million people to death in Gaza, right in front of our eyes. Nazi Jews and Hitler America. http://www.americancitizenstogether.org In a March 31, 1977 interview with the Amsterdam-based newspaper Dagblad de... It's a 5 year old article. At least find something new.That is TWENTY FIVE YEARS better than your 'source' and I gave the source reference, while you did not. Does this mean that in THIRTY years no one else has had similar to say? I have previously complained about your verbal gymnastics concerning Jewish service, or rather the lack of same, in the American forces when your words could be interpreted as intending to mislead. So why should I trust you now? My use of the word 'again' after "A Jew Seeking Justice" was intended to show that it was a reprint. Ok. And ... At leas... Um, it should be obvious that a source to an interview done 25 years ago will be, duh, 25 years old. Your excerpt wasn't an interview - it was an opinion piece. But, whatever. There were Jews 100 years ago who disagreed with Zionism, and some still do (for various reasons.) I have previously complained about your verbal gymnastics concerningThen don't. I've provided you with tons of links to original sources, not biased opinion pieces. Have you checked out ONE of them yet? There are plenty of non-Z... to Desert Storm. Oh, but you're talking about those mythical Zionists. You know, the ones that aren't ALSO Jews. I have previously complained about your verbal ymnastics concerning Jewish service, or rather the lack of same, in the American forces when your words could be interpreted as intending to mislead. So why should I trust you now? Where do you come up with this stuff? Have you read an Israeli newspaper lately? They're filled with fierce debate and harsh criticism of Jews of every ilk, and the Israeli government. Self-criticism is what Jews do. Ironically, you'll find much stronger condemnation of the Israeli government in some Israeli papers than anything you'd see in the US. It's a democracy. As is the Jewish world which is very open to dissent. SOME Jews consider all criticism of Israel to ... If you read my posts then you would know that the one miracle of democracy in Israel is the Israeli newspapers. Yes they are a decade ahead of the US. Yes if I want to be informed about Jewish affairs then Jewish-American 'publications' are an absolute no no. It is these rags and the Jewish Lobby that I refer to a as Stalinist. You must agree that they are right-wing fascist mouthpieces for the rightwing Israeli parties. This is so since they assassinated the Israeli PM! In a March 31, 1977 interview with the Amsterdam-based newspaper Dagblad de... It's a 5 year old article. At least find something new.That is TWENTY FIVE YEARS better than your 'source' and I gave the source reference, while you did not. Does this mean that in THIRTY years no one else has had similar to say? I have previously complained about your verbal gymnastics concerning Jewish service, or rather the lack of same. In the serving by Jews in the American forces, when your words could be interpreted as intending to mislead. So why should I trust you now? <<<Have you read an Israeli newspaper lately? They're filled with fierce debate and harsh criticism of Jews of every ilk, and the Israeli government. Self-criticism is what Jews do. Ironically, you'll find much stronger condemnation of the Israeli government in some Israeli papers than anything you'd see in the US. It's a democracy. As is the Jewish world which is very open to dissent. SOME Jews consider all criticism of Israel to be anti-Semitic. Personally I think they're wrong. But, some also believe that the denial of Jewish self-determination is inherently anti-Jewish. Look, it's a complex issue.>>> POP! |
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Me a Stalinist? Apparently, you haven't heard about my protest days, throwing burning coffins over the fence of the local Soviet Embassy. I'm sure I'm on file somewhere. I'm a left-leaning Canadian that would die (and kill) to defend Canadian democratic principles and Canadians of every religion, ethnicity and political affiliation, as have many of my relatives who served in three different armies (Canada, Britain, US) from the Second World War to D 
