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10-30-2007 11:25 AM
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ratilfar says:
From the article:

"At the same time, a U.S. reconstruction project to help shore up the dam in northern Iraq has been marred by incompetence and mismanagement, according to Iraqi officials and a report by a U.S. oversight agency to be released Tuesday. The reconstruction project, worth at least $27 million, was not intended to be a permanent solution to the dam's deficiencies."
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10-30-2007 5:58 PM
kkcapricorn
"incompetence and mismanagement" one of the USA trademarks -- probably built by the same people who built our bridges.
I feel for the Iraqi people.
10-30-2007 7:15 PM
The REAL Napster
Hmmm. you missed the key elements of the story. Ooops.

[b]Behind-the-scenes wrangling[/b]

The effort to prevent a failure of the dam has been complicated by behind-the-scenes wrangling between Iraqi and U.S. officials over the severity of the problem and how much money should be allocated to fix it. The Army Corps has recommended building a second dam downstream as a fail-safe measure, but Iraqi officials have rejected the proposal, arguing that it is unnecessary and too expensive.

The debate has taken place largely out of public view because both Iraqi and U.S. Embassy officials have refused to discuss the details of safety studies -- commissioned by the U.S. go...
10-30-2007 7:17 PM
The REAL Napster
Also the dam itself was built to fail from the start. Some idiot decided that building the damn on GYPSUM was a good idea. Way wrong answer, you might as well have built it on salt deposits as they both disolve easily in water.
10-30-2007 7:35 PM
ratilfar
I guess you missed the tag line. Badly constructed and after six years of occupation, nothing has been done about it. Not even an evacuation of the people in the flood plain. If it burst, under American "tutelage" who do you think is going to get the blame? It also shows the underlying problems with the occupation, hence the tag:

"You break it, you own it!"
10-30-2007 9:25 PM
The REAL Napster
More than 50,000 tons of material have been injected into the dam since leaks began forming shortly after the dam was completed. A September 2006 report by the United States Army Corps of Engineers noted, "In terms of internal erosion potential of the foundation, Mosul Dam is the most dangerous dam in the world."
Since the dam was opened in 1983, it has been leaking. This is WAY before the U.S. ever got to Iraq. And no amount of U.S. money or resources can 'fix' the obvious blunder that Iraq made by allowing this to be built on gypsum. Since the U.S. didn't 'break' anything, the Iraqis can own up to their huge mistake.
10-30-2007 9:28 PM
arifsali
Since the U.S. didn't 'break' anything, the Iraqis can own up to their huge mistake.
I think we ought to let this damn collapse first before we figure out who owns the "contract" to fix once it is broken.
10-31-2007 1:02 AM
BobbyRutan
Placing the blame on who built it doesn't solve anything.

However what is evident is that after the years we have been there we haven't been able to guide Iraq any closer to being a self regulating, self functioning, government capable of much of anything.

Count on being there another 20 years minimum.
"Mission Accomplished". Shheeesshh!!!
10-31-2007 1:39 AM
The REAL Napster
Placing the blame on who built it doesn't solve anything.

However what is evident is that after the years we have been there we haven't been able to guide Iraq any closer to being a self regulating, self functioning, government capable of much of anything.

Count on being there another 20 years minimum.
"Mission Accomplished". Shheeesshh!!!
And throwing various political insults to the ether does nothing either. Face it - The Iraqi's allowed a major dam to be built incorrectly. It's not the U.S. fault, it's not the administrations fault, that rests solely with THE IRAQIS. NO amount of U.S. money or resources can fix a screw up that big, period. There is nothing to...
10-31-2007 10:16 AM
BobbyRutan
Acknowledged that it is the Iraqi's engineering fault.

Acknowledge that the US nation building lacks a quality engineer.

The invasion is pointless if no working government forms. There is no evidence of a working government forming.
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