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6-11-2008 4:24 PM288 views
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6-15-2008 4:09 AM
jmjoness
The scientific method has well- defined rules by which we decide whether a solution to a scientific problem is correct or not. It is not that we believe or have the opinion that a certain solution is correct
I agree that beliefs and opinions should have nothing to do with science, but what about human error? Humans don't exactly have the best track record for being completely honest, with themselves or others.
6-15-2008 5:10 AM
JohnWaterman
That's what some of those "well-defined rules" are for. Peer review and replicability for example.
6-16-2008 12:09 AM
jmjoness
John, who makes these "well-defined rules"? Who are the ones who decide that a certain solution fits these "well defined rules"?
6-16-2008 12:11 AM
jmjoness
And it only gets worse when talking about creation vs evolution, because neither can be reviewed or replicated!
6-16-2008 6:28 PM
Lexica
The well-defined rules relate to the process, not the outcome. It's not "is your result acceptable within our ideology" or "does your result fit into our rules of what's allowable", it's "did you conduct the experiment in a valid manner so that other researchers can perform their own experiments to further test your hypothesis".

from http://www.sciencebuddies.org/mentoring/project_scientific_method.shtml:
" The steps of the scientific method are to:

* Ask a Question
* Do Background Research
* Construct a Hypothesis
* Test Your Hypothesis by Doing an Experiment
* Analyze Your Data and Draw a Conclusion
* Communicate Your Results"

One of the main purposes of communic...
6-16-2008 6:30 PM
Lexica
Also, it's false to say that evolution can't be observed or replicated.

"Biologists define evolution as a change in the gene pool of a population over time. One example is insects developing a resistance to pesticides over the period of a few years. Even most Creationists recognize that evolution at this level is a fact. What they don't appreciate is that this rate of evolution is all that is required to produce the diversity of all living things from a common ancestor.

The origin of new species by evolution has also been observed, both in the laboratory and in the wild. See, for example, (Weinberg, J.R., V.R. Starczak, and D. Jorg, 1992, "Evidence for rapid speciation following a founder ...
6-16-2008 8:55 PM
jmjoness
The idea that scientists are in a cabal to protect each other and prevent people from examining their work is completely wrong -- scientists *want* other researchers to check their results. And if the results can be disproved, they want them to be disproved.
Lexica, the ONLY point I am trying to make is this: is it impossible for human biasness to affect conclusions that are made. Is it?? I seem to recall an evolutionary scientist himself hiding evidence that actually disproved classical Darwinian evolution! Instead of presenting it to the scientific community for review, he decided to hide and ignore it because of his own biasness. That's the only point I'm maki...
6-17-2008 2:28 PM
Lexica
jmjoness said:

I seem to recall an evolutionary scientist himself hiding evidence that actually disproved classical Darwinian evolution! Instead of presenting it to the scientific community for review, he decided to hide and ignore it because of his own biasness.
You seem to recall? Got a citation for this? Without a pointer to who and when, there's no more reason to believe this claim than the claim that alligators live in the sewers of New York City.
6-17-2008 6:35 PM
jmjoness
K, I'll get it for you.
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