Bill Kristol condemns lying for political ends: Seriously


	Bill Kristol condemns lying for political ends: Seriously

ratilfar

7-27-2009 7:27 PM

177 views

tags:

bill, the, bloody, kristol, neocons, liars, empire, conquest, iraq, war

ratilfar says:

No really, he did!

1 Comment |

Add a Comment

7-27-2009 7:30 PM

ratilfar

Cont...

Kristol (Billy's Daddy-O) has acknowledged his intellectual debt to Strauss in a recent
autobiographical essay. "What made him so controversial within the
academic community was his disbelief in the Enlightenment dogma that 'the truth will make men free.'" Kristol adds that "Strauss was an intellectual aristocrat who thought that the truth could make some [emphasis Kristol's] minds free,
but he was convinced that there was an inherent conflict between
philosophic truth and political order, and that the popularization and
vulgarization of these truths might import unease, turmoil and the
release of popular passions hitherto held in check by tradition and
religion...

Login to Comment. Not a member yet? Sign up

Today's Top Clips

visit the Top Clips page

View the Top Clips from July 27, 2009

Embed This Clip In Your Site...

<div style="margin: 12px 0px; font-family: arial; color: #333333; background: #ffffff; border: solid 4px #e5e5e5; width: 100%; clear: left;"><div class="CM_CTB_Content_Wrap" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;background-color: #ffffff;"><div style="border-bottom: solid 1px #dcdcdc; white-space: nowrap; margin-bottom: 8px; background-color: #eeeeee ;background-image: url(http://www.clipmarks.com/images/source-bg.gif); background-repeat: repeat-x; height: 24px; line-height: 24px; vertical-align: middle; padding-bottom: 4px; color: #666666; font-size: 10px;" ><a href="http://clipmarks.com/clip-to-blog/" title="see clips that are hot right now"><img src="http://content.clipmarks.com/blog_embed/3b38e65d-6b9d-475c-854c-77a45040027d/3926C422-4B09-4825-8804-B22A08F52F56/" alt="" width="19" height="19" border="0" style="vertical-align: middle; margin: 0px 4px; display: inline; border: none; float:none;" /></a>clipped from <a title="http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/07/27/kristol/index.html" href="http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/07/27/kristol/index.html" style="font-size: 11px;">www.salon.com</a></div><blockquote style="text-align: left; padding: 0px 8px; margin: 4px 0px 8px 0px; background: transparent; border: none;" cite="http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/07/27/kristol/index.html"><P>On Fox News yesterday, NPR's Juan Williams -- who, just by the way, dutifully spouts GOP talking points more reliably than any Fox commentator other than Karl Rove -- condemned President Obama for telling "lies" about the Gates controversy.  That prompted <A href="http://www.weeklystandard.com/weblogs/TWSFP/2009/07/an_obfuscatable_moment.asp" target="_blank">this observation from Bill Kristol</A>, in which he head-pattingly quoted Williams:</P></blockquote><div style="height: 2px; font-size: 2px; background: #dcdcdc; border-bottom: solid 1px #f5f5f5; margin: 2px 4px;"></div><blockquote style="text-align: left; padding: 0px 8px; margin: 4px 0px 8px 0px; background: transparent; border: none;" cite="http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/07/27/kristol/index.html"><P>S<STRONG>o a moment in which everyone colludes to obscure the truth (which seems characteristic of most "teachable moments" in contemporary America) is not a moment of teaching; it's a moment of deception, of misdirection, of obfuscation.</STRONG> Call it an obfuscatable moment.</P></blockquote><div style="height: 2px; font-size: 2px; background: #dcdcdc; border-bottom: solid 1px #f5f5f5; margin: 2px 4px;"></div><blockquote style="text-align: left; padding: 0px 8px; margin: 4px 0px 8px 0px; background: transparent; border: none;" cite="http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/07/27/kristol/index.html">The political philosopher most revered by neoconservatives, Leo Strauss, explicitly advocated such lies, as <A href="http://www.secularhumanism.org/index.php?section=library&page=drury_24_4" target="_blank">Philosophy and Political Science Professor Shadia Drury documented</A>:</blockquote><div style="height: 2px; font-size: 2px; background: #dcdcdc; border-bottom: solid 1px #f5f5f5; margin: 2px 4px;"></div><blockquote style="text-align: left; padding: 0px 8px; margin: 4px 0px 8px 0px; background: transparent; border: none;" cite="http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2009/07/27/kristol/index.html">[Strauss] therefore taught that <STRONG>those in power must invent noble lies and pious frauds to keep the people in the stupor for which they are supremely fit</STRONG>. . . . </blockquote></div><div style="margin: 0px 6px 6px 4px;"><table style="font-size: 11px;border-spacing: 0px;padding: 0px;" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tr><td style="background:transparent;border-width:0px;padding:0px;">&nbsp;</td><td align="right" style="background:transparent;border-width:0px;padding:0px;width:107px" width="107"><a href="http://clipmarks.com/share/3926C422-4B09-4825-8804-B22A08F52F56/blog/" title="blog or email this clip"><img src="http://content8.clipmarks.com/images/c2b-foot.png" border="0" alt="blog it" width="107" height="17" style="border-width:0px;padding:0px;margin:0px;" /></a></td></tr></table></div></div>