 readforpleasure says: The article has an interesting couple paragraphs on porn: "Similarly, psychologists have found that male subjects, immediately after watching pornography, are more likely to express misogynistic attitudes. But as professor Kendall points out, we need to be clear on what those experiments are testing: They are testing the effects of watching pornography in a controlled laboratory setting under the eyes of a researcher. The experience of viewing porn on the Internet, in the privacy of one's own room, typically culminates in a slightly messier but far more satisfying experience—an experience that could plausibly tamp down some of the same aggressions that the pornus interruptus of the laboratory tends to stir up. In other words, if you want to understand the effects of on-screen sex and violence outside the laboratory, psych experiments don't tell you very much. Sooner or later, you've got to look at the data." I'm surprised this type of information isn't suppressed by right wing religious organizations. Or better, why not give the Vatican along with their priests Internet access of the un-filtered kind? Sorry, this finding that Net access-->less rape doesn't hold up. The same study also finds that computer access--> more rape, the two effects cancel each other out (in technical terms, the study in all likelihood suffers from multicollinearity). See here for more. See here for more.Went there..., didn't see what you were talking about. But it did say this: The bottom line: More violence on the screen means less violence in the streets. Probably that's because violent criminals prefer violent movies, and as long as they're at the movies, they're not out causing mischief. They'd rather see Hannibal than rob you, but they'd rather rob you than sit through Wallace & Gromit. I didn't see the part that pointed to MORE rape from computer access. You stated: "The same study also finds that computer access--> more rape.."Point that part out please. If it's true, then computer access WITHOUT Net access (no acces... In the clipping, I commented and linked to a blog entry that points this out. If it's true, then computer access WITHOUT Net access (no access to porn) actually SUPPORTS the conclusion of the article.The problem is that nearly all computers have access to the Internet. Because computer access and internet access are so tightly linked, you cannot really tease out the effects of computer access and internet access. You get funny results where computer access-->more rape, and internet access-->less rape. If the researchers had used only one of these variables, I suspect, as does Jim... jklugman: Sorry, this finding that Net access-->less rape doesn't hold up.I wouldn't be so definite about it, based on the link you posted. Sure, I hope the study's authors tested for confounding effects including multicollinearity. I'm actually more concerned that Kendall used state-level data--that could be a huge source of error. I'd like to see all those points answered. But I don't think the speculation on Kendall's study design proves anything until we see those answers. I also don't think Kendall's findings prove anything--behavioral studies are difficult to interpret. Nonetheless, it's an interesting data point. (BTW, I don't have a strong position either direction--that porn increases or decreases rape.) Perhaps Kendall's argument has yet to be definitively disproven. However, I think Lindgren's argument is very compelling, especially his calculations for the predicted change in rapes if Internet access increases. Any dampening effect of internet access on rape is totally countered by the effect of computer ownership. By the way, in the latest draft of his paper--dated March 2007, Kendall does not acknowledge the dangers specific to controlling for computer ownership. He does admit that the effect of Internet access is not robust to different model specifications (see the results of his extreme bounds analysis, presented on ... The problem is that nearly all computers have access to the Internet. Because computer access and internet access are so tightly linked, you cannot really tease out the effects of computer access and internet access.Uh, I think you might be confusing Internet access ("nearly all computers have access to the Internet"), with Internet "ready" capability. You are right, that nearly all computers now have the capability, but the "access" to the Internet comes via an Internet Service Provider which is completely separate. In other words, computer access and Internet access are very much divided (not tightly linked) and easily separated in any study. Porn comes from In... Uh, I think you might be confusing Internet access ("nearly all computers have access to the Internet"), with Internet "ready" capability.The source I linked to says that in 2003, 87.6% of households with computers used their computer to access the Internet. This is according to data collected by the US Department of Commerce. In Kendall's own data, covering the years 1998, 2000, 2001, & 2003, 60% of households owned a computer. 48% of households accessed the internet from home. 48%/60% = 80%. Since 100% of those who access the internet from home possess a computer ... |
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