@skwirlinator - ok, so we leave. Then what? Iran is already pushing things far enough - that'll totally leave them to do as they please. North Korea was a perfect example of how they got some oomph with the test (the Iranians did)... until we saw that Bush was right after all on the N. Korea approach. The silly Clinton/Carter approach was a fiasco that didn't accomplish anything using a bilateral approach. Bush insisted on multilateral one and he was right - China pushed a button, started erecting a fence and kim-the-idiot couldn't apologize to them fast enough and promise that he won't do it again, like some spoiled 4-year old. Obviously a setback not only for N. Koreans in their effo...

@skwirlinator - ok, so we leave. Then what? Iran is already pushing things far enough - that'll totally leave them to do as they please. North Korea was a perfect example of how they got some oomph with the test (the Iranians did)... until we saw that Bush was right after all on the N. Korea approach. The silly Clinton/Carter approach was a fiasco that didn't accomplish anything using a bilateral approach. Bush insisted on multilateral one and he was right - China pushed a button, started erecting a fence and kim-the-idiot couldn't apologize to them fast enough and promise that he won't do it again, like some spoiled 4-year old. Obviously a setback not only for N. Koreans in their efforts, but so for Iran.

I realize this situation horribly upsets all the Bush-haters, since the only thing they're capable of is to mock him, as if that was the air they breathe, but the reality is on the table.

If we leave Iraq now - it'll very likely screw up many things important to the USA and easily create a much bigger problem going forward. Seems like a lot of the problems in Iraq are caused by Iran and that's what we should deal with to not only resolve that problem, but by resolving it - resolve the Iraq problem as well.