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9-28-2007 8:44 AM1083 views
egoldstein says:
Without being an expert in how international affairs like this should be dealt with, I know that i've recently witnessed the military of one or more countries entering other countries to initiate change. Does the current situation in Myanmar not warrant this type of action!!?? Do the people of Myanmar not deserve some kind of outside help!!??
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9-28-2007 7:53 PM
invictus
Very good question Eric. Though I don't know the answer, I'm pretty sure if a powerful international reaction does not come, Aung San Suu Kyi's life is under serious risk too. Far East has a long tradition of military coups and oppression, torture, human rights abuses etc. There is a military junta controlling the neighboring Thailand too. But this time, it seems to me that the sparks of resistence are far more powerful than before. We need to support Burmese freedom and I hope they'll manage the rest. I sincerely hope, the Burmese uprising will be a milestone on Southeast Asia's history.
9-28-2007 10:41 PM
mooner-one
Maybe they should go wireless.
9-28-2007 11:54 PM
ratilfar
You often you hear of soldiers "fighting for our freedoms" which is sometimes accurate (but in recent history not so much), but these monks are really fighting for freedom, without weapons but with heart. Take is what it means to have a pair!
9-29-2007 8:19 AM
Spiritraiser
Problem is big (and smaller) countries support those initiatives only when they are in their best interests. Very courageous actions from the monks, I hope they succeed in their peaceful fight for freedom.
9-30-2007 10:04 AM
ouyangwulong
Fellow clipper Marszal is my go to man these days for information on Burma. For the latest on the situation, check out some of his clips.

Now that they aren't letting foreigners in, and the media and communications are shut down, the Junta is becoming horrifically violent. I won't describe what I've heard about on this clip because it isn't flagged mature. Burma needs more media.

I stand with Marszal, trying to spread the word. I hope we can use clipmarks and the rest of the internet to get their story out, and prove that you can't isolate a nation or hide atrocities in the age of digital information!
9-30-2007 10:13 AM
constantskeptic
the US and others have already proposed sanctions on Burma, but Russia and China have already said they will veto these sanctions because they believe that what is going on in Burma is an "internal issue", google UN sanctions Burma if you don't believe me. So the question is, why do China and Russia not want other nations, like the US, to interfere? Who is benefiting from the current military regime? Certainly not the citizenry.
9-30-2007 10:23 AM
cptenaud
China is having the Olympics next year.I believe the world should vote to cancel that, if China does not take the right stand.

As for intervention. I have seen what our intervention did in Vietnam. And I think we need to realize that the fight for freedom of your country. Is a fight that must be with your countrymen. That is what we did here. Our civil war was very bloody, with great loss of life. But it would have been worse if foreign troops would have intervened.
9-30-2007 10:37 AM
ouyangwulong
Vietnam, terrain wise, is a cakewalk compared to burma. Large portions of Burma are still uncrossable overland. It is a tangled inland jungle.

I know you're a veteran, cptenaud, but I don't know where you were deployed. If you saw action in Cambodia or Laos (yeah, I know, US troops "weren't in those countries" but who are we kidding) you may be able to start imagining the terrain problems in inland South East Asia.

Nobody wins wars in Burma. People just fight and die there. The Junta has been fighting insurgents for decades in a stalemate. The country is a literal quagmire. Military intervention, justified or not, would be futile in Burma. And like sanctions, it would probably just make the situation worse, not better.
10-1-2007 10:53 AM
invictus
Fellow clipper Marszal is my go to man these days for information on Burma. For the latest on the situation, check out some of his clips.
Thanks, Ouyangwulong, looks like I missed Marszal's clips.

Unfortunately, the only thing that changed in Burma in last few decades is the name of the country and the capital. I sincerely hope, this time the fate of the Burmese will change. I still see Aung San Suu Kyi as a very big hope not only for Burma but for all Southeast Asia. (Let's not forget the military coups and oppressive regimes in neighboring countries.)
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