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"Ticking time bomb" justify torture?
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5-7-2008 5:47 PM
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<div style="margin: 12px 0px; font-family: arial; color: #333333; background: #ffffff; border: solid 4px #e5e5e5; width: 100%; clear: left;"><div class="CM_CTB_Content_Wrap" style="margin: 0px; padding: 0px;background-color: #ffffff;"><div style="border-bottom: solid 1px #dcdcdc; white-space: nowrap; margin-bottom: 8px; background-color: #eeeeee ;background-image: url(http://www.clipmarks.com/images/source-bg.gif); background-repeat: repeat-x; height: 24px; line-height: 24px; vertical-align: middle; padding-bottom: 4px; color: #666666; font-size: 10px;" ><a href="http://clipmarks.com/clip-to-blog/" title="see clips that are hot right now"><img src="http://content.clipmarks.com/blog_embed/3369776c-0b03-45d0-afd5-1c236ec66ad2/3DA2DC68-956F-464B-A9C6-07B0AF024559/" alt="" width="19" height="19" border="0" style="vertical-align: middle; margin: 0px 4px; display: inline; border: none; float:none;" /></a>clipped from <a title="http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/07/jack-bauer-torture/" href="http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/07/jack-bauer-torture/" style="font-size: 11px;">thinkprogress.org</a></div><blockquote style="text-align: left; padding: 0px 8px; margin: 4px 0px 8px 0px; background: transparent; border: none;" cite="http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/07/jack-bauer-torture/">One of the <A href="http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/02/oreilly-bull-torture/">right wing’s</A> favorite talking points to defend torture is that it could be useful in a so-called “ticking time bomb” scenario. </blockquote><div style="height: 2px; font-size: 2px; background: #dcdcdc; border-bottom: solid 1px #f5f5f5; margin: 2px 4px;"></div><blockquote style="text-align: left; padding: 0px 8px; margin: 4px 0px 8px 0px; background: transparent; border: none;" cite="http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/07/jack-bauer-torture/">But in a House Judiciary Committee <A href="http://judiciary.house.gov/oversight.aspx?ID=436">hearing</A> yesterday, Rep. Keith Ellison (D-MN) asked three jurists who have extensively studied interrogations if they have ever heard of such a scenario.</blockquote><div style="height: 2px; font-size: 2px; background: #dcdcdc; border-bottom: solid 1px #f5f5f5; margin: 2px 4px;"></div><blockquote style="text-align: left; padding: 0px 8px; margin: 4px 0px 8px 0px; background: transparent; border: none;" cite="http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/07/jack-bauer-torture/"><P><U>Marjorie Cohn</U>, President, National Lawyer’s Guild: <STRONG>I know of one. It’s on the show 24</STRONG>. And that’s the only one I know of. </P></blockquote><div style="height: 2px; font-size: 2px; background: #dcdcdc; border-bottom: solid 1px #f5f5f5; margin: 2px 4px;"></div><blockquote style="text-align: left; padding: 0px 8px; margin: 4px 0px 8px 0px; background: transparent; border: none;" cite="http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/07/jack-bauer-torture/"><P><U>Phillippe Sands</U>, University College, London: <STRONG>I know none other</STRONG>, and I’ve never seen the show 24, so I don’t even know of that one.</P></blockquote><div style="height: 2px; font-size: 2px; background: #dcdcdc; border-bottom: solid 1px #f5f5f5; margin: 2px 4px;"></div><blockquote style="text-align: left; padding: 0px 8px; margin: 4px 0px 8px 0px; background: transparent; border: none;" cite="http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/07/jack-bauer-torture/"><P><U>David Luban</U>, Georgetown University:<STRONG> I have been trying to chase down true ticking time bomb cases for a couple of years</STRONG>. There have been a couple that have been alleged to be ticking time bomb cases. <STRONG>They turned out not to be true.</STRONG></P></blockquote><div style="height: 2px; font-size: 2px; background: #dcdcdc; border-bottom: solid 1px #f5f5f5; margin: 2px 4px;"></div><blockquote style="text-align: left; padding: 0px 8px; margin: 4px 0px 8px 0px; background: transparent; border: none;" cite="http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/07/jack-bauer-torture/">Even torture proponents can’t think of a scenario.</blockquote><div style="height: 2px; font-size: 2px; background: #dcdcdc; border-bottom: solid 1px #f5f5f5; margin: 2px 4px;"></div><blockquote style="text-align: left; padding: 0px 8px; margin: 4px 0px 8px 0px; background: transparent; border: none;" cite="http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/07/jack-bauer-torture/"><A href="http://www.bakerlaw.com/FindLawyers.aspx?Abs_Ppl_ID=A4F45B59-815B-4A91-9E21-1AE8768A834E">David Rivkin</A>, a former Reagan Justice Department official</blockquote><div style="height: 2px; font-size: 2px; background: #dcdcdc; border-bottom: solid 1px #f5f5f5; margin: 2px 4px;"></div><blockquote style="text-align: left; padding: 0px 8px; margin: 4px 0px 8px 0px; background: transparent; border: none;" cite="http://thinkprogress.org/2008/05/07/jack-bauer-torture/">“I personally do not have complete proof” of a particular instance.</blockquote></div><div style="margin: 0px 6px 6px 4px;"><table style="font-size: 11px;border-spacing: 0px;padding: 0px;" cellpadding="0" cellspacing="0" width="100%"><tr><td style="background:transparent;border-width:0px;padding:0px;"> </td><td align="right" style="background:transparent;border-width:0px;padding:0px;width:107px" width="107"><a href="http://clipmarks.com/share/3DA2DC68-956F-464B-A9C6-07B0AF024559/blog/" title="blog or email this clip"><img src="http://content7.clipmarks.com/images/c2b-foot.png" border="0" alt="blog it" width="107" height="17" style="border-width:0px;padding:0px;margin:0px;" /></a></td></tr></table></div></div>
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Even those who say yes can't recall such a situation ever happening - except on "24."
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