Speaking about a "New Deal" again

I'd really love to learn what our fellow American clippers think about a possible "New Deal" after the elections.

America was not immune to the wave of fascism that spread across Europe at this time. It just did not take hold in the US because of an almost religious individualism, which has disappeared a little in recent decades. The idea of the New Deal was based in the same model that Mussolini used to advance his State machinery. Roosevelt and Mussolini had a mutual respect and Roosevelt even bragged that they were implementing similar programs. Roosevelt was a keen observer and also great admirer of Woodrow Wilson, who in his book The State pretty much outlined th...

I'd really love to learn what our fellow American clippers think about a possible "New Deal" after the elections.

America was not immune to the wave of fascism that spread across Europe at this time. It just did not take hold in the US because of an almost religious individualism, which has disappeared a little in recent decades. The idea of the New Deal was based in the same model that Mussolini used to advance his State machinery. Roosevelt and Mussolini had a mutual respect and Roosevelt even bragged that they were implementing similar programs. Roosevelt was a keen observer and also great admirer of Woodrow Wilson, who in his book The State pretty much outlined the reality of the coming wave of Progressive Fascism built upon mobilization. Roosevelt and Wilson both built their tendencies toward statism and fascism on' war-socialism', much the same way the Neocons do. In fact, the Necons are just the reincarnation of the Wilsonian era. The similarities are stunning.

I would not doubt the potential attempt at some sort of "new deal" philosophy by statists like Clinton or Obama. However, we have the luxury of history and having lived through this as a nation in the early 20th century we might be less susceptible. One never knows for sure.

Of course, today, given the stigma of fascism based on it's propensity for eugenics, genocide, thuggery, and violent socialism, it is not popular to call Roosevelt a fascist, though in his day it was not uncommon to refer to Roosevelt and Wilson as fascist. If you do not believe me, then just research "the social possibilites of war".

We see these same tactics today where regressive policies are given the name "progressive" and held to achieve some mobilization among the populace for some social action. Social action was the rallying cry of all early 20th century progressive/ fascists that tired of the sloppy and inefficient workings of both liberal democracy and socialism.

But we should also not forget what the New Deal was. The New Deal was an entire new set of assumptions applied to the Constitution. Where the Bill of Rights outlined what the State cannot do, the New Deal outlined a set of criteria about what the State owed the people and what the expectations would be of society in return. This was a pendulum swing away from American Libertarianism toward the Italian Fascist model. Businesses and corporations were already in the fold because of the massive paradigm shift that occurred away from taxing corporations toward the new income tax that each citizen was initially responsible for. Not to mention the Wilsonian advancement of creating an entirely new u...

But we should also not forget what the New Deal was. The New Deal was an entire new set of assumptions applied to the Constitution. Where the Bill of Rights outlined what the State cannot do, the New Deal outlined a set of criteria about what the State owed the people and what the expectations would be of society in return. This was a pendulum swing away from American Libertarianism toward the Italian Fascist model. Businesses and corporations were already in the fold because of the massive paradigm shift that occurred away from taxing corporations toward the new income tax that each citizen was initially responsible for. Not to mention the Wilsonian advancement of creating an entirely new unaccountable branch of government we lovingly refer to as the Fed.