A question about the political spectrum


	A question about the political spectrum
papananook
7-5-2009 4:32 AM
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papananook says:
Hat tip to Lordtwinkie in LJ--
A very useful and clarifying video...ponder it!
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It seems to me that most people still believe in the left vs right political spectrum (MSM seems to keep pushing this view as well as most politicians), I read comments on here thats still very much liberals/communist vs conservatives/fascists. </DIV></blockquote><div style="height: 2px; font-size: 2px; background: #dcdcdc; border-bottom: solid 1px #f5f5f5; margin: 2px 4px;"></div><blockquote style="text-align: left; padding: 0px 8px; margin: 4px 0px 8px 0px; background: transparent; border: none;" cite="http://community.livejournal.com/talk_politics/166511.html"><div align="center"><img src="http://content8.clipmarks.com/blog_cache/community.livejournal.com/img/45516CCC-D266-467E-AC19-F6BB100ED9FE" alt="" /></div></blockquote><div style="height: 2px; font-size: 2px; background: #dcdcdc; border-bottom: solid 1px #f5f5f5; margin: 2px 4px;"></div><blockquote style="text-align: left; padding: 0px 8px; margin: 4px 0px 8px 0px; background: transparent; border: none;" cite="http://community.livejournal.com/talk_politics/166511.html">But I think this is really too black and white for a real world, its a false dichotomy</blockquote><div style="height: 2px; font-size: 2px; background: #dcdcdc; border-bottom: solid 1px #f5f5f5; margin: 2px 4px;"></div><blockquote style="text-align: left; padding: 0px 8px; margin: 4px 0px 8px 0px; background: transparent; border: none;" cite="http://community.livejournal.com/talk_politics/166511.html"><DIV>Apparently I'm not the only one who thinks this one dimensional view of politics is too narrow and unrealistic so some people, people smarter then me, created some other charts to define political views.</DIV></blockquote><div style="height: 2px; font-size: 2px; background: #dcdcdc; border-bottom: solid 1px #f5f5f5; margin: 2px 4px;"></div><blockquote style="text-align: left; padding: 0px 8px; margin: 4px 0px 8px 0px; background: transparent; border: none;" cite="http://community.livejournal.com/talk_politics/166511.html"><DIV>For instance the Nolan Chart</DIV></blockquote><div style="height: 2px; font-size: 2px; background: #dcdcdc; border-bottom: solid 1px #f5f5f5; margin: 2px 4px;"></div><blockquote style="text-align: left; padding: 0px 8px; margin: 4px 0px 8px 0px; background: transparent; border: none;" cite="http://community.livejournal.com/talk_politics/166511.html"><div align="center"><img src="http://content8.clipmarks.com/blog_cache/community.livejournal.com/img/22B1D1B0-3602-47B2-9DDA-3EFF26BD9215" alt="" /></div></blockquote><div style="height: 2px; font-size: 2px; background: #dcdcdc; border-bottom: solid 1px #f5f5f5; margin: 2px 4px;"></div><blockquote style="text-align: left; padding: 0px 8px; margin: 4px 0px 8px 0px; background: transparent; border: none;" cite="http://community.livejournal.com/talk_politics/166511.html"><DIV>which adds a second axis, creating a two dimensional view but still I think this is kind of lacking as well. Then you have an evolution of the Nolan chart with this, </DIV></blockquote><div style="height: 2px; font-size: 2px; background: #dcdcdc; border-bottom: solid 1px #f5f5f5; margin: 2px 4px;"></div><blockquote style="text-align: left; padding: 0px 8px; margin: 4px 0px 8px 0px; background: transparent; border: none;" cite="http://community.livejournal.com/talk_politics/166511.html"><div align="center"><img src="http://content9.clipmarks.com/blog_cache/community.livejournal.com/img/28744977-FFAC-4170-9504-29F39FBDC298" alt="" /></div></blockquote><div style="height: 2px; font-size: 2px; background: #dcdcdc; border-bottom: solid 1px #f5f5f5; margin: 2px 4px;"></div><blockquote style="text-align: left; padding: 0px 8px; margin: 4px 0px 8px 0px; background: transparent; border: none;" cite="http://community.livejournal.com/talk_politics/166511.html"><DIV>Then theres the Hans Slomp European Spectrum, </DIV></blockquote><div style="height: 2px; font-size: 2px; background: #dcdcdc; border-bottom: solid 1px #f5f5f5; 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