 JohnWaterman says: Go to the site for more on this shocking story. Man, I'm so sick of those who claim to be Christians and get up to this shit . . as rabid and hate-filled as those who claim to be Muslims who get up to the same shit. It's out of control over here, John and bloody dangerous. Have you noticed any rise (politically engineered or otherwise) in 'Christian/ Muslim' propaganda/activities in the UK of late? I guess I am asking for a comparison in the levels of paranoia-induced bigotry. — Comment removed by clipper — No, I can't say I have. The figure show that there is a smaller percentage of believers here than in the US. And as far as the community I'm most familiar with (Christian) goes, there are certainly fewer fundamentalists. Richard Dawkins recently said that although he was an atheist he was culturally christian; he celebrates Christmas, sings carols, eats hot-cross buns, even recites the Latin grace at his Cambridge college dinners. I think a lot of Brits have a belief in some form of God and are "culturally christian". They have the good old C of E to help them with the rites of passage and that's it really. I know only a few Muslims personally, and those are very much culturally muslim. Of... Thanks for the rich reply, JW - it's good, no 'heartening' to know that some things remain on an even keel in the UK. Just to clear something up, I am Brit who has been living over here, for awhile and while I have access to the BBC on the web it's not the same as knowing what's going on at street-level, so to speak. Cheers  It's my impression, as an American born in 1970, that it used to be a lot more possible to be "culturally Christian" in the US than it is now. When I was growing up, my family celebrated Christmas, despite not being observant. And it was fine. These days, though, there is a small but increasingly vocal crowd who are trying to polarize things. These are the people who claim that greeting someone with "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas" is a deliberate and intended anti-Christian slur. Say what? When I was growing up, "Happy Holidays" meant "Happy Christmas Eve, and Christmas, and New Year, and Twelfth Night, and every other holiday that falls during this darkest time of the year". ... That is very much not the case here. All my family, friends, colleagues etc know I'm an atheist and will wish me Merry Christmas with genuine feeling and I will reply the same. I am an Atheist. I celebrate Christmas with my family, none are Christians per say, but they certainly hold some of the values. For me I am celebrating having a family, not the birth of Jesus. I don't mind people saying Merry Christmas and I also reply in kind. The only thing that bothers me is the consumerism attached to Xmas. We make our gifts. An interesting article in Psychology Today said that "50 % of Americans ask God for something daily, which is like asking your imaginary friend to help you find you lost Keys." |
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