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9-9-2009 1:01 PM
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AtlLiberal says:
I've always found the idea of religious relics to be rather creepy. It seems that the fear surrounding swine flu has put a temporary stop to a ritual associated with at least one such relic.
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9-9-2009 1:09 PM
wiccantexan
I find them quite fascinating as a cultural study.
9-9-2009 1:22 PM
AtlLiberal
I find them quite fascinating as a cultural study.
As do I but arguably for different reasons than you might have. The fascination I have is over the power that people ascribe to these bits of bodies or pieces of objects associated with certain individuals one or another sect has deemed as spiritually special. For myself, I find it quite odd.
9-9-2009 9:06 PM
Oortcloud
Ditto AtlLiberal, but replace "odd" with "sick" or "twisted".
9-10-2009 12:10 PM
AtlLiberal
Ditto AtlLiberal, but replace "odd" with "sick" or "twisted".
LOL! Maybe I'm mellowing in my old age.
9-18-2009 7:40 PM
The Infowarrior
As much as I agree about the strange significance of particular relics, I don't feel things like this should be regulated, surely common sense would prevail (eventually). letting TPTB regulate freedom of choice is a dangerous game and a slippery slope.

As for the die-hard religious who make such pilgrimages, I guess their faith will protect them. lol.
9-18-2009 8:05 PM
AtlLiberal
I don't feel things like this should be regulated, surely common sense
would prevail (eventually). letting TPTB regulate freedom of choice is
a dangerous game and a slippery slope.
I'm not familiar with the health laws and ordinances in Italy so I'm not qualified to comment beyond my own opinion concerning this. I know in the US we have laws and regulations that apply to the prevention of the spread of communicable diseases. I've never considered this to be, as you put it, a dangerous game or a slippery slope. Particularly in this age of world travel the responsible attempts to limit the spread of pathogens is something which I think we should be grateful for. Remember the p...
9-19-2009 12:21 AM
The Infowarrior
First of all it really isn't that dangerous, at least no more (certainly no less) than the standard flu.

As for the regulation of food and drugs the FDA is well known for letting things slip through for the right price, untested and unimpeded (as I'm sure it happens elsewhere too). I realise that within an ideal world this would not be the case but as it is the world is rife with corruption and incompetence at the highest levels.

But that aside I, to clarify, was referring to the fondling or whatever of theistic relics, which have never before been Quarantined or what ever it is you do to them, due to flu or indeed hiv or aids or any other disease.

This reaction is something new and so...
9-19-2009 12:24 AM
The Infowarrior
A random thought granted but Surely this so called saints blood would be a scab or blood clot by now?

9-19-2009 1:08 AM
AtlLiberal
This reaction is something new and so I am very wary of it as it
infringes upon freedoms of individuals however misguided or just plain
wrong they maybe.
I suppose there is some truth in that but at the same time when living amongst other humans we're frequently obligated to have our "freedoms" curtailed.

And before we get too crazy about this, I'd be surprised if anyone was arrested or in any way punished for a smooch of the old boy's relic.
A random thought granted but Surely this so called saints blood would be a scab or blood clot by now?
LOL. This may or may not be the case. In any event I'm reasonably sure that the Gennaro's bodily fluid is housed in a very nice reliquary.
9-19-2009 3:17 AM
Oortcloud
A random thought granted but Surely this so called saints blood would be a scab or blood clot by now?
That's part of the miracle and holiness of the relic! It stays fresh! Of course trying to get a sample for a lab to test falls into the category of "ain't happening any time soon"
9-19-2009 10:27 AM
AtlLiberal
@Oortcloud
I seem to recall a study was done some time ago that proposed a reality based answer as to why the "blood" remained fluid. For the life of me I don't recall where I saw it. Perhaps someone else can inject some daylight on that issue?
9-19-2009 11:33 AM
Oortcloud
why the "blood" remained fluid
Because it wasn't blood?
9-19-2009 12:01 PM
AtlLiberal
OK - here's what one researcher found out:

On a less bizarre note, Dr Luigi Garlaschelli and his colleagues at the University of Pavia, Italy, have come up with a scientific explanation for the mystery of the clotted blood of saint which turns to liquid when handled by priests. In Naples, since 1389, for example, a sealed phial of the solid blood of St Januarius has turned into liquid every few months before the faithful who venerate it. Up until
1992, th...
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