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8-20-2007 10:34 AM882 views
invictus says:
Still very ridiculous... Still an embarassment for Turkey.
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8-20-2007 1:05 PM
arifsali
invictus, hard line conservatives are ridiculous and embarrassment no matter where you find them on this earth.
8-20-2007 1:30 PM
Hawkeye_84
What would life be without two ends of the continuum and a centrist point of view to serve as balance? Still, as U.S. citizens, we're fortunate to have our right of free speech and expression.
8-20-2007 1:50 PM
axelsenzon
yeah, f*ck repulicans- f*ck conservatives, yeah. who needed thomas jefferson, abraham lincoln, ronald reagan, ulyssis grant, teddy roosevelt and so forth, f*ck 'ems what i say.
the truth is, this is the same north vs south mentality expressing itself, except you dont know what the f*ck ur talking about or what 'side' your arguing. the 'conservatives' or more accurately 'republicans' are an embarrassment has been the democrat mentality since and including before the civil war. from the 26 democrat senators (all but 1 joining the confederacy) to richard russel fighting civil rights for 25 years to, dare I say, hillary clinton and john edwards (though all there intentions have been all come to...
8-20-2007 2:18 PM
enbar
Whoa back! Slow down there, hoss! I have no idea what that outburst was about and I doubt anyone else does either.
8-20-2007 2:40 PM
ratilfar
Back to the issue at hand (I think the word "conservative" set him off). From Fitness for the Occasion:


Adnan Oktar is a religious zealot who launched a campaign against
the Darwinian theory of evolution, maybe a decade ago. He has written a
number of books, which, despite being worthless and even funny by
scientific standarts, attracted the attention of religious people. In
those fundamentalist circles, he is revered as the “destroyer” of
evolutionary theory as the majority of islamists consider Darwinian
evolution as a refuted theory thanks to his books.
As expec...
8-20-2007 3:17 PM
willhelm
Settle down axelsenxon. Arifsali's not the brigtest light in the socket. To apply the ideals of conservatism across the spectum of international ideology is so grossly ignorant as to not even warrant comment. Arifsali's bigotry knows no bounds. Thisexample of ignorance is sickening. This is the type of hate that should not be tolerated.
8-20-2007 4:26 PM
arifsali
okay, okay, okay, religious zealot is a better word. I'll rephrase:

invictus, religious zealots are ridiculous and embarrassment no matter where you find them on this earth.

Happy
8-20-2007 4:28 PM
arifsali
This is the type of hate that should not be tolerated.
wilhelm, we've been tolerating the hate from religious zealots from centuries. What are you talking about?
8-20-2007 7:29 PM
invictus
LOL Arif, I would say something but I won't. We ignorant, low IQ, etc etc people of "the left" shouldn't talk too much.
8-20-2007 8:36 PM
axelsenzon
you think the word conservative bothers me...?

radical islamists, conservative american... maybe too hasty in blowing up at the comparison but religious conservativeness and political have little to do with each other, though kieth olberman and larry king may tell you different.
and i know how definitive terms mean so much to some here, i'll throw one out. ANTIthiest and Athiest are not the same, though to criticize theism and call it A (meaning impartial actually) is a misnomer and actually doesnt have much to do with every (possibly most) people when regarded to political policy.

8-20-2007 8:45 PM
willhelm
Why can I not get under you skin, Arif. Kudos on that.
8-20-2007 9:39 PM
ratilfar
Perhaps he should have used the term social conservative, although you (axel) are right, if anything those who claim to be conservatives share little or no resemblance to the types of conservatives I grew up with. That the modern Republican party has morphed into this weird amalgam of economic laissez-faire mercantilism with narrow minded social conservatives who claim the mantel of being the only true Christians is something that more traditional libertarians and foreign policy conservatives do not find appealing.
8-20-2007 10:21 PM
skwirlinator
Why can I not get under you skin, Arif. Kudos on that.
LOL
8-21-2007 1:35 AM
arifsali
Well, wilhelm, as you probably once said, "I don't take things seriously on the net". But this is as far as emotions in debates and discussions goes, I take substance very seriously.
8-21-2007 8:38 AM
invictus
Arifsali's bigotry knows no bounds.
ok, I didn't want to fuel the discussion here and kept silent but this is too much Willhelm. I understand you can strongly disagree with Arif, criticise him and oppose his views but calling him a bigot is very unfair. It would be much much better if you could give up directing insults to people you disagree (calling them ignorant, fool, bigot etc.)

Back to the clip context: If you want to see a real bigot, keep an eye on this Adnan Oktar guy. Because he'll soon be a headache for America too.

Thanks to Ratilfar for quoting references about him. Djiezes know a lot about this guy too. Oktar (Harun Yahya) has been supported by some "unknown" ...
8-21-2007 5:54 PM
willhelm
Good for you, Arifsali

Invictus, calling someone ignorant is not "namecalling" it is describing an obvious observation obtained by a clippers comment that displays ignorance. There are many things I am sure you are ignorant about. Don't make comments on subjects that reveal your ignorance about those subjects and I will not comment about my observations of your ignorance about those subjects. Simple.
8-21-2007 7:20 PM
ratilfar
And the phrase:

"Jane, you ignorant slut!" is funny because...
8-21-2007 10:32 PM
enbar
willhelm said:

Why can I not get under you skin, Arif. Kudos on that
Brilliant, this is why I love Clipmarks.
8-22-2007 8:04 AM
syncopath
invictus, i think it was Joseph Goebbels (the Minister for Public Enlightenment & Propaganda in Nazi Germany) that have said:
if it is written, it will be read it, and if it will be read it it will be true, and if it will be true - it will be power ! ....
8-23-2007 5:39 AM
docdoober
LOL. Hey Turkey, get unembarrassed. You figure it out. LMAO
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