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7-23-2008 5:58 PM1545 views
arifsali says:
Can you believe this? The guy is 77 years old now, could he be cooking things up?
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7-23-2008 7:22 PM
Aqualung1000
Interesting!
7-23-2008 7:24 PM
tidbit2
make that the looner module pilot
7-23-2008 7:38 PM
debbyski
7-23-2008 9:06 PM
aklimento
I would like to see how well our heads will cook at 77.
7-23-2008 11:17 PM
Smoke TNT
I wonder if the producers of the X-Files film that opens this weekend put him up to it.
7-23-2008 11:34 PM
The REAL Napster
Think about it. If the guy is THAT old what does he have to lose? If he is speaking the truth about a 60 year cover-up and he just blew the whistle...what are they going to do to him? Take away his birthday? The guy is probably close to his final approach anyways. On the other hand, why would he make up such a huge lie? Is that his legacy to leave behind?
7-24-2008 12:55 AM
willhelm
Mitchell's interests include consciousness and paranormalESP[3] In early 1973, he founded the nonprofit Institute of Noetic Sciences (IONS) to conduct and sponsor research into areas that mainstream science has ignored, including consciousness research and psychic events. phenomena. During the Apollo 14 flight he conducted private experiments with his friends on Earth.
Mitchell says that a teenage remote healer who lives in Vancouver and uses the pseudonym Adam Dreamhealer, helped heal him of kidney cancer at a distance. Mitchell said that while he never had a biopsy (the definitive test for cancer), "I had a sonogram and MRI that was consistent with renal carcino...
7-24-2008 6:51 AM
silvanaraihane
well, the goverments cover up so much, anything is possible!
7-24-2008 8:31 AM
BobbyRutan
Is that willhelm depending on wikipedia for a citation after blasting everybody else for using the unreliable source?
7-24-2008 8:51 AM
debbyski
If he is speaking the truth about a 60 year cover-up and he just blew
the whistle...what are they going to do to him? Take away his birthday?
*LOL* @Napster, that was funny.


@Bobby: Good point!!
7-26-2008 4:27 AM
Hapschaar
I dont believe him
7-27-2008 11:49 AM
tabsey
Got the tongues wagging though.
Chomsky says he no longer bothers with the conspiracy theories around 9/11 because someone would have blabbed by now.
But that doesn't answer this. Old man after a last bit of attention, the Xfiles or is not willing to take the secret with him. To quote Aqualung1000 Interesting!
7-27-2008 12:42 PM
Xtraeme
If you think this is interesting you don't know the half of the story.

Lets start with something that we can all agree was conducted in a scientific manner. Did you know the Viking 1 mission detected "the presence of an active agent that was inhibited by heating" which satisfied the pre-mission criteria for detecting microbial organisms?

That was 32 years ago.

A ridiculous number of scientists still believe this is proof of life on Mars. (1).

Next up, it's common knowledge that Kenneth Arnold started the UFO craze in 194...
7-27-2008 1:01 PM
Xtraeme
"When first noticed, it appeared to be about the size of an orange, which continued to grow in size. After gazing at it for some time Mr. Martin became blind from long looking and left off viewing it for a time in order to rest his eyes. On resuming his view, the object was almost overhead and had increased considerably in size, and appeared to be going through space at wonderful speed."

"When directly over him it was about the size of a large saucer and was evidently at great
height. Mr. Martin thought it resembled, as well as he could judge, a balloon. It went as rapidly as it had come and was soon lost to sight in the heavenly skies. ... ([url=http://ufologie.net/htm/denison1878.h...
7-27-2008 1:10 PM
Xtraeme
He said he didn't see how the Navy could say there had been no concrete evidence of the phenomena." (see here for more details)

Also in 1948 Dr. J. Allen Hynek, a self-proclaimed skeptic, joined Project Blue Book as a scientific adviser. By 1969 when Blue Book was shutdown Hynek did an about face. He wrote several books, particularly, "The Hynek UFO Report" which repeatedly stated that the attitude of Blue Book was, "it can't be therefore it isn't."

He also gave an interview, available on YouTube, where he said, "I was there at Blue Book and I know the job they had. T...
7-27-2008 1:19 PM
Xtraeme
1956 at Bentwater/Lakenheath an object was sighted by several military officers on the ground while simultaneously tracked on radar at 2 different stations. The object moved at ~4000 mph and was monitored for several hours during which two planes were scrambled.

When the 1st DeHavilland Venom locked on to the object the UFO shot to the rear of the plane. The pilot tried evasive maneuvers, couldn't break free & eventually had to return to base to refuel.

The 2nd plane encountered mechanical difficulties as it flew within range of the object. The US sponsored Condon Report had this to say, "[url=http://ufologie.net/htm/bentwaters56.htm]In conclusion, although conventional or natural explanat...
7-27-2008 1:25 PM
Xtraeme
... floating away from Apollo 11 that he, Armstrong, and Collins tracked a point of light in space, that wasn't a star, that was moving and changing directions.

In 1952 naval photographer, Delbert Newhouse, video-taped a flotilla of UFOs while with his wife & 2 small children. He recorded several minutes worth of color video footage. When handed to the USAF it was instantly classified Top Secret. The 1st analysis concluded they were not balloons, aircraft, & unlikely to be birds.

The 2nd analysis by USN Photo Interpretation Lab at Navy's Anacostia facilities was the culmination of a ~1000 man hours of work. There was almost complete consensu...
7-27-2008 1:45 PM
Xtraeme
So in conclusion these accounts demonstrate:

1. that there is something unidentified in our airspace. Project Twinkle definitively proves this.

2. it's likely more than just a simple aerial/weather phenomena. The 1956 Bentwater sighting, the 1976 Iranian F16 encounter, & the 1942 Battle of Los Angeles strongly suggest intelligence.

And,
3. in recent years we're seeing many instances where people who have worked in high-ranking positions in the government are whistle-blowing (FAA Chief Callahan, Astronaut Cooper, Blue Book Dir. Ruppelt, Astronaut Aldrin, B...
7-27-2008 3:05 PM
aklimento
That is more than enough. Compare all this evidence to the flag, flying on the Moon, and get that that we usually believe in what we have urgent desire to believe. Because sole religion become a little, a..., out of fashion, we are starting to believe in intelligent design, eternal life, healing with bio-energy as well as flying dishes, saucers and space aliens. By all means as far away from reality as possible. Because the reality is usually consist from naked true, it become a little, a..., inconvenient, obstructive and irritating. How nice and easy to believe in something out of reality!
7-27-2008 3:52 PM
Xtraeme
@aklimento, I'm having a hard time following you. Are you suggesting the US flag isn't on the moon? Or are you trying to say that the flag is more tangible and therefore better evidence than what was presented above? I think you're suggesting the latter and if that's the case I'd say ignore the anecdotal evidence and look at the UFO cases that have air visual, ground visual, air radar, and ground radar confirmations. Also look at the cases where we have theodolites tracking unidentified objects and then tell me it's "something out of reality." If radar, theodolites, and magnetometers aren't good enough for you I suggest you look at the plethora of physical evidence.
7-27-2008 9:23 PM
aklimento
Xtraeme, I am insisting, that US flag, having glided and fluttered in airless space, is palpable evidence of somebody's attempt to present naked true a little, a... dressed and thus move our conscience out of reality. Concerning that plethora... I am too busy and life is too short. No, I am not going even glance at any of the cases.
7-27-2008 11:54 PM
Xtraeme
So it's worth your time to come to Clipmarks and read an article about Edgar Mitchell's claims of alien life, but it's not worth your time to look at the best evidence? If that's the case then it sounds like no amount of proof will ever convince you of anything that you aren't already willing to believe is possible.

To quote Dr. James E. McDonald, "We have managed to so let our preconceptions block serious consideration of the possibility that some form of alien technology is operating within our midst that we have succeeded in simply ignoring the facts."
7-28-2008 12:13 AM
Aqualung1000
One point should be made here aklimento, the moon does have an atmosphere. I am just going on memory but it seems I recall the moons atmosphere being 1/10 of the earth's. Now while that isn't a very powerful force compaired to the earth's, it still is a force to be dealt with. The fluttering can be explained as part of the moons weather-such as it is..
7-28-2008 12:35 PM
aklimento
Aqualung1000, your precious memory do betraying you; apparently you mixed low dense atmosphere on Mars with low lunar gravity. When martian weather appears in harsh planet wide dust storms, lunar landscape is lifeless gray terrain, where we can still find 40 years old astronauts footprints and they will stay there forever.
And yes, Xtraeme, I have to admit you are absolutely right - accruing that kind of knowledge not in my long list of urgent tasks and I am in big doubt it will get there somehow. The reason I've get involved in this discussion is to show one more sample of addictive sweet getaway from harsh reality and naked true.
7-28-2008 10:27 PM
Xtraeme
How can you know if it's "addictive sweet getaway" if you haven't looked at the evidence? You're making an assumption and you know what they say about people who make an assumptions.
7-29-2008 4:46 PM
aklimento
Well, Xtraeme, than that is not assumption, rather conviction. I've read many fantastic books as a kid, but only once, I simply wasn't able to stay in that imaginable world of sweet dreams as I get older, older and older, saw a cruelty and fraud, witnessed lies and crimes, felt sufferings and pains... Our world is far away from perfection and, you agree, not aliens whom we have to blame for this.
7-29-2008 8:17 PM
Xtraeme
Conviction is a dangerous thing. So is belief. The difference is even though I don't believe in bigfoot, ghosts, or in general supernatural things, I might reconsider if someone were able to present me with thousands of pages of good scientific study demonstrating otherwise.

Also you seem to have mistakenly leapt to the conclusion that I advocate the ET hypothesis. Not so. If you read what I said above the facts lead us to two and only two conclusions: "there is something unidentified in our airspace" and "it's likely more than just a simple aerial/weather phenomena" because whatever it is shows signs of intelligence.

As for your theory that we haven't been to the moon based on the...
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