 BartendingBear says: Dissent is patriotic. Dissent is patriotic.Dissent is not patriotic. Dissent for the purpose of fighting for and defending the founding principles of the nation is patriotic. By the way, this is not dissent. This is putting the beat-down on a bunch of anarchists and brownshirts. They are not patriotic. They are idiots. Harmless demonstrating would not have gotten that response. That is a response to many threats of violence and disruption beyond reasonable behavior. Either you know that and you are lying ~ or you are so selective in your intake of information that you actually believe your propaganda. Neither one is healthy. What can be done for you? Change? Some of us live here in Denver. And know more first hand than anything any news will ever show you. Alot of the people I saw running around as 'protestors' literally looked like Goth-Emo raiders who had just disembarked from a long ocean voyage. What a mess they were. Protesting agianst the crooked men and women who run this country is not idiotic. Unfortunately no one is able to restore this nation to its proper course, and no amount of sit-ins and peaceful assembly will make any diffrence. The wealthy and powerful will remain upon their seats of power while using our lives to enforce their will upon the world, grease the machines of war, and our children will be the supper for their offspring. Whoo hoo Bear! You got yourself some dessenting comments there! Good on ya for getting the blood to flowing to their other body parts like the typing fingers! Lighten up fellows; a little rebellion now and then could be good for ya! “The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain I'm trying to figure out what this is supposed to prove... Alot of the people I saw running around as 'protestors' literally looked like Goth-Emo raiders who had just disembarked from a long ocean voyage.It's as if you were saying: "And as we all know, people who pretend to be 'protesters' but who really look like Goth-Emo raiders, whatever they are, deserve all the harrassment the police can dish out. Here in America we allow protest, but not from Goth-Emo raiders who look like they just got off an ocean voyage." Or what? Are you saying we ought to let folks protest, but not if they look weird? You can not allow outsiders to the tribe to mess with the tribesmen. That is the gist of it. You must obey and dress appropriately... Next demonstration; Black tie and tuxedos please. How about khakis? I like the more comfortable look when I'm protesting... Tuxedos make look like I'm part of the convention itself... And they make me look fat  I recall a quote from Oliver Stone's movie 'Nixon' : Nixon shuffles back alone, coming to a stop in front of a larger-than-life, full-length oil portrait of JOHN F. KENNEDY. Nixon studies the portrait, pads closer. Looks up. NIXON When they look at you, they see what they want to be. (then) When they look at me, they see what they are ... I remember that scene. I was cracking up when he said that. but ,what's it got to do with this?! Police suck at PR. Harmless demonstrating would not have gotten that response.Wow, are you naive or what? Surely you weren't alive during Kent State, or the march through Selma, or Watergate, or the reign of J Edgar Hoover. Our history is drenched in the use of police to stifle dissent. looked like Goth-Emo raiders who had just disembarked from a long ocean voyage This is putting the beat-down on a bunch of anarchists and brownshirts. They are not patriotic.And dehumanizing or stereotyping their motives has ever been the means of justification of elimination of their Constitutional rights. "They look funny." "They aren't patriotic." "So lock 'em up." "Sca-rooo the Constitution, it's only for people like me." Wow, are you naive or what? Surely you weren't alive during Kent State,Actually, I'm quite aware that that picture is of not one of those things. It is last week in Denver. They just threatened violence for violence's sake. @davboz, do you just not understand the point that was being made? No one said that the photo from Denver was actually Kent State or Selma. What was actually said is this: the fact that Kent State and Selma happened -- yes, they did happen, in the real world -- gives the lie to your claim that the only reason the police would be out in force is because the protesters posed a bona fide threat. The cops do come out and bust heads sometimes when there's no real need for it. If you don't believe that, you haven't read your history. Presumably we'll never know for certain whether this was one of those times or not. But if you want to pretend that that never happens, well, you have more fai... |
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