In The Cultural War Trenches


	In The Cultural War Trenches

debbyski

10-9-2008 9:51 PM

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10-10-2008 10:57 AM

citizenbfk

This is a strong cornerstone of Barrack Obama, BTW.

Although he has quite sweeping, progressive and ideas for Main St. rather than Wall St., he also is a big believer in Consensus, working towards consensus, trying to formulate some basic ideas that people can agree on and then move forward from there.

Good idea.

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