 masbury says: Though has often complained about communist countries doing so The Bush-Cheney administration. Proudly bringing you closer to dictatorial despot regimes. What a legacy. And to think that those who voted for Shrub made fun of Al Gore for wanting to protect social security in a lock box. When we look back in 10 years, I wonder what scholars will point to as the pivotal moment when the US slid from being a paragon of justice into the slurry of lesser nations. In as little as 10 years down the road, we will see that, in general, the adminsitration did the right thing going to war. It is, however, unfortunate that there are people like these within the administration that want to step around the law, and will do anything to do so--and not get caught. There higher-ups that approved, or at least should have known about, this should be disciplined accordingly. Which war is that? Iraq? I don't think so. The whole thing is a giant criminal enterprise, this is merely one of the symptoms. jamesgrimes, I'd be interested in why you think so. I see it as begun under false pretences (a made-up threat to our security) for the secret purpose of securing the region for American oil companies. I'm not able to see how that, and the enormous loss of blood and treasure that ensued (for which we'll still be paying in 10 years) can be a good thing. Masbury, here is why I think the way I do: President Bush is as dumb as he looks. Therefore, he can be easily tricked. Whether is was Cheney or someone else within the administration, but they saw the intelligence coming from out of Iraq, molded it a bit to fit there needs, and feed it President Bush. He, being dumb, bought it, sold it to us as it was sold to him, and we, being as patriotic as we were and ready to kick ass after 9/11, went into Afghanistan and Iraq. I do believe he was feed faulty intelligence, and was sold a bill of false goods about the region; so Bush didn't lie, but he was tricked; this is why the war, as far as from President Bush was legal. I want to find the peo... You still didn't answer why it was the right thing to do. You answered why Bush was tricked (many of us believe he was a willing partner and do not buy into the ignorance excuse). Because Bush did it to liberate the people of Iraq--others in the administration had other reasons though. Secondly, Bush did it to show "Dadddy" Bush that he could finish his dad's job. I have two difficulties with that view - 1. Data seem to be accumulating that indicate Bush knew and deliberately distorted intel to the Congress - mostly recently, the report of the Senate of about two weeks ago, which included some Republican support. 2. GWB is the CEO. Just as Ken Lay maintained his ignorance of Enron's double-dealing, the Executive branch is GWB's company, and he is responsible for its official actions. He is, ultimately, the person responsible for judging the credibility of the intel, of the people who provided it, and of the actions taken on it. The buck stops there - to paraphrase Truman. I don't think Bush really gave a rat's ass about Iraqi's. He wanted to one up his Dad and is on record as saying that only war time President's make a mark. He has constantly been in competition with his father. Don't forget also that he claimed to hear voices from God telling him that it was what he should do. Furthermore, has he freed those people? Christians were ethnically purged from the country. Shites ran Sunnis out of Baghdad and they have to exist in ethnically divided neighborhoods protected by cement barriers and U.S. soldiers. Some kind of freedom. I'd much sooner buy your explanation that he is a dunce who was duped. That still doesn't make it the right thing to do. |
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