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BobbyRutan says:
More: Mr Carter emphasised that he and many other super-delegates would not countenance this. “It would be undemocratic if the super-delegates blatantly went against the decision of Democratic voters across the nation.

"And I think that many super-delegates who have not yet declared their preference have the same feeling that I do, including the Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi. She’s said over and over that whoever gets the most [pledged] delegates by June 3rd ought to be the nominee.”

It would be “too bad” and damaging to the party if the battle went to the nomination, he said. The role of super-delegates, he argued, was to swing behind the winner chosen by the voters and not to usurp them.
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4-29-2008 11:07 PM
masbury
It would the the Democratic Party acting as if it were a Republic.
4-29-2008 11:09 PM
n2sooners
And if Clinton ends up winning the popular vote?
4-30-2008 2:52 AM
papananook
Oh, pleeeez, N2, nobody cares what you think. Duh!
4-30-2008 9:30 PM
masbury
"And I think that many super-delegates who have not yet declared their
preference have the same feeling that I do, including the Speaker of
the House Nancy Pelosi. She’s said over and over that whoever gets the
most [pledged] delegates
by June 3rd ought to be the nominee.”
5-1-2008 3:30 PM
n2sooners
Oh, pleeeez, N2, nobody cares what you think. Duh!
I didn't give an opinion, I asked a question. If the Clinton campaign must accept the outcome of the popular vote, what happens if she wins the popular vote? Does it go both ways, or does the popular vote suddenly not matter if Clinton wins it?
5-1-2008 7:39 PM
BobbyRutan
Actually the title of the clip is due to my laziness. I simply parroted what the website titled the article where I clipped it.

Masbury is correct. The way the rules are set in the Democratic Party the nominee is decided by delegates both pledged and unpledged.

Jimmy Carter believes that the nominee should be the person who on June 3rd has the most pledged delegates.

His other statements is that the amount of [unpledged] delegates, popular vote, and states won should be known by June 3rd.

I agree with Jimmy that we stick by rules and base it on delegates. I further believe that super delegates should not over turn the results of pledged delegates. The Democrats did this once before in...
5-1-2008 7:50 PM
BobbyRutan
I don't think realclearpolitics.com has updated that popular vote count recently. However, I did go through the method the were counting the popular vote and they were not crediting caucus states with needing 5 to 10 votes for each district vote. That skews things significantly.
5-1-2008 11:06 PM
n2sooners
So, the party that wants all the votes counted doesn't really want them all counted, just certain ones.
5-1-2008 11:13 PM
BobbyRutan
Who said that.

The party is counting all the votes but it aggregates the caucus votes into district delegate level votes. The proportion of delegates is still representative of the vote.

If they reported the entire vote it would work on Obama's behalf, which is one of the points I was making.

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