An example of Christian dissent represented is in an article here which underlines the hypocrisy of this:

For years, conservative Christians have been outspoken in their opposition to the political vision of the radical feminist movement. Now they are supporting a woman for the second highest office in the land who is a self-identified feminist who wants to make feminist objectives a part of her political agenda.

What you hear alot of on talk radio (Rush, Hannity, et al) is that Feminism is being redefined, for Palin, as only for those women who are pro-abortion rights. That is purp...

An example of Christian dissent represented is in an article here which underlines the hypocrisy of this:

For years, conservative Christians have been outspoken in their opposition to the political vision of the radical feminist movement. Now they are supporting a woman for the second highest office in the land who is a self-identified feminist who wants to make feminist objectives a part of her political agenda.

What you hear alot of on talk radio (Rush, Hannity, et al) is that Feminism is being redefined, for Palin, as only for those women who are pro-abortion rights. That is purposely misleading and intellectually dishonest.

PALIN IS A POTENTIAL LIABILITY FOR MCCAIN

If the dissent grows among Christian conservatives this could potentially then cost McCain losing at least a portion of his conservative base (which never liked him) more than helping him as perhaps he thought! Palin could be McCain's downfall.

If McCain is losing "moderate republicans" (see previous clipmark) and now part of the conservative base (who might not vote, or vote Constitution Party), it will be impossible for him to win. Yet the better polls show it very close, apparently meaning that conservatives have not yet left him.

Whether Gov. Palin is within the traditional/radical feminine box, I can not say. ...the Christianity I know from Scripture frees me to be exactly who I am. I can more readily identify with the Gov. Palin who I see and hear....working, doing her job, being a mother/wife...than I could ever relate to those who hated motherhood and wife-dom and considered it all demeaning.

Many Christians would reply that they know there is no "freedom" to act contrary to the "Christianity they know from Scripture", and that Scripture teaches what one ought to do and be instead of giving license to whatever one wants as desires or ambitions. "Who they are" becomes defined by its teaching (incl...

Whether Gov. Palin is within the traditional/radical feminine box, I can not say. ...the Christianity I know from Scripture frees me to be exactly who I am. I can more readily identify with the Gov. Palin who I see and hear....working, doing her job, being a mother/wife...than I could ever relate to those who hated motherhood and wife-dom and considered it all demeaning.

Many Christians would reply that they know there is no "freedom" to act contrary to the "Christianity they know from Scripture", and that Scripture teaches what one ought to do and be instead of giving license to whatever one wants as desires or ambitions. "Who they are" becomes defined by its teaching (including for "males and females"), rather than Scripture being used to justify whatever they want to do. It is the atheist who says "I will do as I please" and asserts an unbridled "freedom to be exactly what I am" or "how I feel", however deviant. (The subjective, fallacious argument justifies all crime when continued). The argument is irrational and inconsistent with Christianity or even broader principles.

Many on all sides legitimately question (and do not identify) whether Palin is being a good "wife/mother" (with a challenged infant especially) and just how good a relation she has with Todd (while he dissolved a partnership and friendship and his former friend got a divorce from some kind of affair with Sarah). Is she suited for public trust while failing at home? Is it good or Christian enough merely to refuse abortion while failing to nurture a child (do you abandon a child in its infancy as a mother--abort it ex post facto), or merely remain legally married while compromising it, disrespecting her husband, with other men? Just why did her daughter engage in underage drinking (publicly posted) and sexual promiscuity, and what about her not being around much?

Actually, if you listen to "conservative" talk radio they say that it is "insulting" and "conside

I like 'Palin the Strong Woman." but can't take her seriously as a vice-president or, (gasp! - God Forbid) as a president.

The slight diversion of this topic into 'Christian freedom,' (or is it Christian constrictions?) and into Atlas Shrugged total atheism is interesting.

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"atheist who says "I will do as I please" and asserts an unbridled "freedom to be exactly what I am" or "how I feel", however deviant. (The subjective, fallacious argument justifies all crime when continued)
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Very pointed to both these discussions would be the life and work of Simone de Beauvoir who wrote what many consider a cornerstone tract on contemporary feminism: The Second Sex;

And she also addr...

I like 'Palin the Strong Woman." but can't take her seriously as a vice-president or, (gasp! - God Forbid) as a president.

The slight diversion of this topic into 'Christian freedom,' (or is it Christian constrictions?) and into Atlas Shrugged total atheism is interesting.

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"atheist who says "I will do as I please" and asserts an unbridled "freedom to be exactly what I am" or "how I feel", however deviant. (The subjective, fallacious argument justifies all crime when continued)
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Very pointed to both these discussions would be the life and work of Simone de Beauvoir who wrote what many consider a cornerstone tract on contemporary feminism: The Second Sex;

And she also addressed the question of ethics in her book: The Ethics of Ambiguity.

Sometimes, now, she is described as a 'secular humanist.' -- she was also part of the early existentialism philosophies developing in France after WWII.

Her conclusions? -- Well, I couldn't sum them all up, but it seemed clear that she thought it was cool to be a 'Strong Woman,' -- but she also felt there were some natural restrictions on those who didn't have Scriptures or a God, i.e. --Absolute freedom didn't mean you could go around killing people.

One of her clever tricky words to explain this -- if any are needed -- was to contend that in his freedom, man made laws.

I think today there might be a distinction that makes this easier to understand: We all have complete personal freedom; but public behavior and what you do to others have 'natural laws.'

You see these 'natural laws,' in most religions: Don't kill people, don't steal from people, don't mess around with another guys wife.

Why? -- Well...all these Big Three things tend to 'disrupt society.' (disturb the peace, to say the least).

Thus, Simone de Beauvoir contents that even an atheist would have these 'restrictions on his freedom' i.e., even if there is no God there still is validity in public law.

& some folks make more laws for themselves