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9-21-2007 3:41 PM
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9-21-2007 5:37 PM
pjn58
American motto
"In God we trust"
In reality this should read
"In the Dollar we trust".
Both God & the Dollar are subject to speculation.
9-22-2007 9:05 AM
bignosemousie
Where your treasure is, there will your heart be also.
True.
9-23-2007 12:24 PM
willhelm
I wonder if most of us are not uncomfortable and guilty about the inadequacy of our giving. It seems to me there is really large cultural divide on this issue. Very wealthy people like Oprah Winfrey are often praised when they give what amounts to pocket change by their standard, and the overwhelming generosity of many non-famous is overlooked.
I think this is because we have replaced the responsibility of service and sacrifice to others with a narcissistic attitude of personal rights over responsibility. The materialist effects of socialism is in the process of robbing us of our purpose. You can see these effects in Europe with their profound narcissism and unrelenting selfishness. Will we ...
9-24-2007 4:19 AM
pjn58
The materialist effects of socialism is in the process of robbing us of our purpose. You can see these effects in Europe with their profound narcissism and unrelenting selfishness.
Are you serious or are you just trying to provoke a response???
9-24-2007 4:38 AM
abailart
Whatever your political beliefs, it is certainly feasible that
a culture or society can be unhealthy (see, as one of many examples, Erich Fromm's 'The Sane Society'}. If recognise this, we will see that each individual can be largely formed by the culture/society to their own,e.g., narcissistic state. Understanding this, true charity will not hide behind a wall of disapprobation of the general but give more especially to the dispossessed (materially and spiritually). What charity could there possibly be in only 'giving' to the desrving?
9-24-2007 8:15 AM
willhelm
The fact that you have to ask if I am serious, pjn58, is evidence you are in la la land as it is a painfully obvious fact.
9-24-2007 8:23 AM
debbyski
Then the early church caught and applied what they had heard and
experienced by assuming that all their possessions were not really theirs
but God’s and were to be used joyfully to meet each other’s needs.
9-24-2007 8:35 AM
willhelm
Exactly right, Debbyski. Do you not wish it were the case in today's narcissistic world created, not by giving, but by taking?
9-24-2007 12:49 PM
debbyski
I see the above quote to mean that equality did not mean everyone getting the exact same amount, but rather everyone getting what they needed--everyone getting enough. It means no child left behind in all the global family of God.
9-25-2007 8:27 AM
syncopath
God vs dollar is a false memetic battle. these Gods, though well rooted pantheon in the collective mind, should be forsaken as all other Gods .... and we should come back to believe in the Human, as a phenomena that can perform better than just his survival instinct (thus take&take more, 2increase chances of survival in a restricted resources environment) .. & may raise his head open his eyes wild shut 2see a wider picture, a world view that may look & dream a bit farther than "my own bellybutton" ..
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