 BartendingBear says: Never gonna happen. It would be great if it did. Note that all but three are from the Hebrew Bible, and the three are either easily explained by the historical context of the moment when they were written or are obvious hyperbole. Christians are not Jewish. Paul insists that they are "released" from the law. But your writer is certainly correct in sensing that Christians as a group haven't come to grips with that! Maybe, as we are told, mankind was created in God's image, and that is why the world is as it is. The Bible usually is offensive to non believers. The Bible usually is offensive to non believers.I don't believe they are offended. They read specific verses (or, they see them on the internet being used by people completely ignorant of context or theological implication) and wonder. It is evident to those with an understanding how and why they are wrong, but as many times as one tries to enlighten, they are intent on not understanding. Misunderstanding , ignorance, and not believing is one thing...Not caring to understand, avoidance, and not believing is another. To some, Christianity is a Serrat painting, to the learned Christian it is a DaVinci. Grace flips the switch. Counter-challenge: Let me choose the parts you read from an American dictionary, and you must own them.....or American history...or your favorite philosopher, etc. Anything read out of context, including every day conversations of your own, may be derided, only due to willful ignorance, by any fool. Those who do not wish to understand the Bible, or any book, cannot be taken seriously. Jesus had an answer in regard to such persons: Cast not your pearls before swine... OOH!! the quote game, I'm good at this one. "Those who fear that they may cast pearls before swine are often lacking in pearls." - Carl Sandburg  next!! Christian's may have a lack of pearls but there is no lack of swine. As evidenced by number of politicians who use their positions of power to preach their "faith" I often wondered, when god orders or condones the rape of women or the killing of children, or even the rape of children... what "context" changes the immorality into something divine? When god condones the brutality of slavery and blood sacrifice of the innocent... what "context" makes the horrific brutality suddenly okay? And how does the Chapter 1 god become different because we're now on Chapter 2? Newsflash! It's the same damn god! It is said, "But the Old Laws don't have to be followed by Christians." Great. Unfortunately.... That was never the issue! The issue is a vindictive barbaric god with no sense of justice or morality suddenly becoming the bearer of today's moral ideal. ... The question you raised is the single most questioned issue of people who are atheist. The question is why do these bad things happen when there is a God who can prevent them. The problem lies in a lack of knowledge of who God is and what is man's position in regards to God. Today all we hear about is the God of love. "God loves everybody and is begging them to hear him." That is not the God of the scripture. We are a fallen race, sinful and evil in the sight of God who is infinitely holy. He is the creator, we are but lumps of clay to be fashioned by Him any way He wills. We have no standing to argue with His wisdom. I know you will hate this, but this is the God of the Bible. The question you raised is the single most questioned issue of people who are atheist. The question is why do these bad things happen when there is a God who can prevent them.Uh, no. The question is NOT "why do bad things happen when there is a God who can prevent them;" the question is why is god the one doing them? Did you notice how you simply changed the subject to another question? Battered wife syndrome. The problem lies in a lack of knowledge of who God is and what is man's position in regards to God.You could just as well substitute God for husband and here's what you said: "The problem lies in a lack of knowledge of who my husband is and what is ... Here is what God says about your comments: (Dan 4:35) All the inhabitants of the earth are reputed as nothing; He does according to His will in the army of heaven And among the inhabitants of the earth. No one can restrain His hand Or say to Him, "What have You done?" Sorry, no god speaks in the second or third person, and no god would say something that stupid. Some gray bloke wrote that in a book. Get it? It came out of a book! God: "All earth inhabitants are belong to us." This is a quote from the Book of Daniel where Nebuchadnezzar made this statement about God. The Bible is the Word of God. Look it up. The Bible is the Word of God. Look it up.Clueless is as clueless does. Where exactly are you going to look that up? In the Bible? Self-referencing material rarely passes muster when it comes to authority on a subject. Translation: Just because the Bible says it's the word of God (and not always, I mean all those letters were not written by God) doesn't make it so. This is a quote from the Book of Daniel where Nebuchadnezzar made this statement about God. The Bible is the Word of God. Look it up.I asked God directly if the bible was his word, and he said, "Not one single word of it!" I said, "Not even one?" He said, "Not even one." I said, "Well what am I going to tell Jay8h?" He said, " Tell that poor misguided soul that if I can author an entire universe by my self, I sure as hell wouldn't need a man to write my book, would I ?" I said, "Sir, you're tying to use reason... it's not going to work." He said, "One day it'll sink in." Have fun mocking the Bible and God.... at your own peril. Remember this on your death bed. You shouldn't be jealous that I can get answers while you can only pretend god speaks through a book (how lame is that?) As long as you think he speaks though a book, you'll never get answers. Like I said, not one world of it is his! You can tell because the bible doesn't agree with that other book god wrote... the universe. You see, if you believe god created the universe, then the bible should be in agreement with it, if god had anything to do with it. Instead, the bible gets it all wrong! Why do you think that is? One day it'll sink in. Heck even the books of the Bible contradict each other all the time. Pretty inconsistent and sloppy work for an all-knowing, all-seeing deity. ratifar, what are you doing making comments about what I wrote here when you have blocked me on your own Clips. Are you afraid of my remarks? I marvel at the "wisdom" of the two of you when millions of Christians have studied the Bible more than any document ever written and they find no "sloppy" work or "disagreement" with creation. You guys must be the smartest men in the world! (well at least you think your are) I marvel at the "wisdom" of the two of you when millions of Christians have studied the Bible more than any document ever written and they find no "sloppy" work or "disagreement" with creation.http://www.religioustolerance.org/christ7.htm "There are on the order of 1,200 Christian organizations in North America, and over 30,000 in the world." You need not marvel at anyone's wisdom, just take the blinders off. Every denomination is a disagreement with other interpretations and beliefs. The " millions of Christians [who] have studied the Bible" clearly disagree with you! How is it that you do not know these things? At least they are studying the Bible and trying to find truth. It is better than to mock it with an opinion. Where are your credentials? How anyone find the truth in something that contradicts itself? Look at the progress of religion just over the past 100 years. Now look at the progress of science (which is a means of finding the truth). Weigh the progress of each. There are my credentials. One works exceedingly well, and one doesn't. LOL! studying the Bible and trying to find truthYour notion of finding the truth in the bible came from... where? Perhaps as likely as finding the truth in Harry Potter. Again, self-reference FAIL! Using the questioned source to find it's veracity is a worthless exercise. More unenlightened opinions.... Here's one: Another child dies at the hands of faith in the holy book, by believing parents. I just wish more of these parents would refuse medical treatment FOR THEMSELVES so when they die a slow agonizing death, their children can learn the difference between delusion and reality! |
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