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4-12-2008 10:37 AM852 views
Aribeth says:
If this couple expected their arrangement would spare them the trials and heartache of a conventional marriage, they were wrong.Their multiple affairs went on until World War II when Sartre was called up and their sex games had to be conducted through letters.Left behind in Paris, Simone continued to seduce both men and women, writing titillating descriptions of her activities to Sartre behind the Maginot Line, which reveal her heartlessness and the vulnerability of her conquests.Tragically, the lives of these girls, who were pathologically jealous of each other over their teacher's attentions, were permanently blighted.One took to self-harming, another committed suicide. Most remained pathetically unfulfilled and dependent on the childless Simone, who perversely referred to them as her 'family'.

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Sartre had always said the best way to learn about a country was to sleep with its women.
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4-12-2008 10:40 AM
Aribeth
In New York he chose Dolores Vanetti, a radio journalist. Within two days he was in her bed and was soon proposing marriage.Left behind in Europe, de Beauvoir fought back by sleeping with a succession of married men and telling Sartre all about it. Yet when he finally returned to Paris, he ignored her completely and moved in with his mother.

Simone threw herself into her work and, after a visit of her own to America in 1947, she wrote her most important book, The Second Sex.The Americans did not take to Simone as they had to Sartre. They disliked her drinking, they mocked her clothes and they noticed her faint whiff of body odour.She, in turn, disliked the bland faces of American women who ...
4-12-2008 11:17 AM
abailart
As you would expect from the Daily Wail, a supersaturated retelling of dirty, filthy secrets for the titillation of prurient readers is excused by acting as an argument that these two were responsible for our Godless and immoral contemporary culture.
4-12-2008 11:36 AM
Aribeth
I take it that you didn't like the article. I didn't like what I read either,I just found it interesting,it doesn't mean that I agree.And I don't know what to expect from Daily Mail,I hardly ever read it,I found this by chance.
4-12-2008 1:48 PM
Antara
I was just listening to Sartre's stuff on the BBC
4-12-2008 4:11 PM
carrerinyes
I enjoyed the read.
4-12-2008 4:47 PM
wildcat
Abailart, I must concur, and strongly agree with you..
both humans were and to a very large extent still are great inspirations of mine
4-13-2008 3:27 AM
abailart
<<<"The look", Sartre explains, is the basis for sexual desire; Sartre declares that there isn't a biological motivation for sex. Instead, "double reciprocal incarnation," is a form of mutual awareness which Sartre takes to be at the heart of the sexual experience. This involves the mutual recognition of subjectivity of some sort, as Sartre describes: "I make myself flesh in order to impel the Other to realize for herself and for me her own flesh. My caress causes my flesh to be born for me insofar as it is for the Other flesh causing her to be born as flesh."[1]

Even in sex (perhaps especially in sex), men and women are haunted by a state in which consciousness and bodily being would be in...
4-13-2008 9:49 AM
syncopath
interesting clip Aribeth. of course these two great minds (their ideas as well as their private lives) left a lot of space for public dispute & polemical discussion.
especially a lot of space left 4 ambiguity as to how to understand what they have tried to say & to be. No doubt both were brave man. and even just for that i hold them both in high respect.
4-13-2008 9:50 AM
syncopath
After he died, Simone was left alone with his body in the hospital, and she crawled under the sheet to spend one last night with him. Now that his restless mind was stilled she at last had him where she wanted him.
4-13-2008 9:53 AM
syncopath
One of the aims of sexual union is procreation - the creation by reproduction of an image of itself, of the union.
Mortimer Adler


.... a sexual food 4 thought ......
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