 n2sooners says: ABC makes it easy. Instead of having to go search for media bias, ABC does all the work in a nice pretty slideshow format. The official numbers go like this. Of the 13 sex scandals, 12 involve elected officials. Of those, 7 are republican and 5 are democrat. And if you counted you know that they mention party only once for the democrats (20%), but they mention it in six of the clips involving republicans (86%). And if you actually paid attention you would have noticed that ABC News listed the political affiliations for ALL but one of the Congressmen and NONE of the presidents, mayors, governors, and unelected officials. Maybe before you go off and charge "bias!" over such a trivial thing you should consider alternative explanations. Still waiting for you to tackle the liberal bias at Fox News. Check out their follow-up report on Spitzer--not once do they report that Spitzer is a Democrat. I actually do have a problem with FOX's reporting and do see a liberal bias in much of their news. Most of the time that is because they use AP stories, but not always. Of course, people would ridicule that idea because they can't distinguish between actual news coverage and FOX's mostly conservative editorial/entertainment shows (although even there they have more liberals than most news stations have conservatives). The Fox News article I linked to used parts of the AP report, but they made changes as they saw fit. They could have added Spitzer's political affiliation but did not (that's the deal with AP wire stories--news organizations can copy them and change them). I suppose now you are going to tell me this is because of Fox News's liberal bias. And I suppose you will also tell me that the New York Post, New York Sun, and Washington Times also suffer from liberal bias. Good luck with that argument. I suppose now you are going to tell me this is because of Fox News's liberal bias.  No, I shouldn't laugh at the afflicted.  ..but he did say ...FOX's mostly conservative editorial/entertainment shows (although even there they have more liberals than most news stations have conservatives)  What planet?  I suppose now you are going to tell me this is because of Fox News's liberal bias. No, I shouldn't laugh at the afflicted. ..but he did say ...FOX's mostly conservative editorial/entertainment shows (although even there they have more liberals than most news stations have conservatives) What planet? You are exactly right, n2sooners. Fox News does slant slightly Left. They do a good job though of balancing it out and questioning sources and information. A UCLA survey actually showed The Drudge Report to be the most liberal news source on the Internet. Here is more info. We should come to expect that if 98% of the evidence stacks up against what JK determines to be politically expedient for his Marxist, anti-Liberty views, then he will easily opt for the 2% wihtout question. Willhelm: the survey you link to says nothing about Fox News or the Drudge Report or UCLA. As I said, good luck with that argument. We should come to expect that if 98% of the evidence stacks up against what JK determines to be politically expedient for his Marxist, anti-Liberty views, then he will easily opt for the 2% wihtout question.Hey man, happy birthday. I see old age has softened you up. A year ago you were calling me the monarch of lies and equivalences. Now I am just an anti-Liberty Marxist who cherry-picks his facts. I'm sorry for the confusion. I did not intend to imply that they did. By the way, JK. I am not making an argument. I have plainly put aside your need to do so. The facts are clear on this matter and quite settled. The facts are clear on this matter and quite settled.What, that Fox News and the Drudge Report are liberal? If the facts are so clear, it should not be hard for you to marshal some of those facts in support of your position. But when you say "I don't have to make an argument because my point is obvious" that suggests to me your argument is not as obvious as you may like to think. Here is an article that discusses the UCLA survey. I somehow missed your comment preceding my 5:03 comment. My 5:03 comment referred directly to your 4:41 comment. OK, I looked at the press release you linked to and I looked at the study. First of all, according to the press release, Brit Humes' Fox News show was found to be conservatively biased. Which supports the point I was originally making--Fox News does not have a liberal bias. (ironically, while you accuse me of cherry-picking my facts, you turn around and do exactly that). Second of all, let's look at the study. As far as I can tell, the study measured media bias by looking at the think tanks/policy groups cited in news reports. So then they had to figure out whether the think tanks are left or right. How did they figure that out? Well, they looked at the pre-calculated ideological rat... Yea, whatever, JK. We should come to expect that if 98% of the evidence stacks up againstIn JK's world the mainstream media have a Conservative bias and Think Progress, Media Matters, Mother Jones are fair and objective. You once agin prove how inconvenienced you are by certain facts to the point of cynical dismissal. I can think the Soviets had a kick-ass National Anthem and still not agree with your motives and politics. In JK's world the mainstream media have a Conservative bias and Think Progress, Media Matters, Mother Jones are fair and objective.I have only been arguing that Fox News and the Drudge Report do not have a liberal bias. I did not say anything about the mainstream media, Think Progress, Media Matters, or Mother Jones. That was not exactly clear in your initial comment. Frankly JK, I do not feel the need to convince you that the sky is blue. n2sooners: I actually do have a problem with FOX's reporting and do see a liberal bias in much of their news. Most of the time that is because they use AP stories, but not always. Of course, people would ridicule that idea because they can't distinguish between actual news coverage and FOX's mostly conservative editorial/entertainment shows (although even there they have more liberals than most news stations have conservatives).Perhaps you have an inability to distinguish. Then again, I wonder if you have actually watched. My initial comment is clearly saying that complaints about this particular issue (articles that do not mention Spitzer's party affiliation) are cheap instances of fabricated outrage. I made no comment about the broader issue of media bias. And I am not convinced that Fox News' straight news reporting has a liberal bias. You and n2sooners can assert it all you want, but that doesn't make it so. FOX news original reporting, stories they do entirely by themselves, do not have a liberal slant. But the fact that much of the news they carry is either directly from the AP, NYT, Reuters, Time or some other MSM source, or a slight alteration of those source stories, does mean that much of the news they carry has the same slant as the source. That and the fact that Fox tends not to depart from stories and presentations the mainstream media are reporting. It is as if it is all canned and funneled through various outlets. I certainly would not imply Fox News has a liberal agenda. They are just caught up in a cycle that is heavily Left-leaning and are at the mercy of that cycle. willhelm said:Agreed. And returning to the thesis of the clip, have ya'll seen this Yahoo picture's headline? They did manage to get it right in the small caption, but I don't know that I can see mistakenly putting the "R" in the bold headline. That is quite odd, Rustee. I am not sure I have ever seen a party affiliation in the title unless it was necessary to refer to a certain position like DNC Chairman or House Republican leader etc.. Not so odd in that it seems like a blatantly misleading. FOX news original reporting, stories they do entirely by themselves, do not have a liberal slant. But the fact that much of the news they carry is either directly from the AP, NYT, Reuters, Time or some other MSM source, or a slight alteration of those source stories, does mean that much of the news they carry has the same slant as the source.How can someone write this? Is it worth explaining how wrong the thought process is here? Is he suggesting that Fox instead make up the news, with even more sex peddled as news??? Has he no comprehension of the difference between facts and interpretation. I suppose if you watch too much Fox crap then the cross over is more difficult ... |
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