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9-28-2007 7:33 PM
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We are very clearly being invaded....
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9-29-2007 3:19 AM
RecordSage
It'll be interesting to see if it makes the news at all. I wonder if they have Buddhist day scheduled?
9-29-2007 3:29 AM
willhelm
Is there a Christian day?
9-29-2007 10:39 AM
AcesLucky
"..invaded by a radical Muslim organization that has physical ties with the Muslim Brotherhood and financial ties to Hamas."
Really? If any of that were true they'd be listed as a terrorists organization and arrested. All of them; tossed into a prison cell on some other land where they could be tortured and never see a lawyer or get any representation whatsoever -- compliments, the Patriot Act and the killing of rights of Habeas Corpus.

Even in Texas people have a right to freedom of religion and peaceful assembly -- compliments, the U.S. Constitution.

I know; sometimes it stinks when others have the same rights as you do. Not to worry. All your civil rights will soon be gone, too.

9-29-2007 11:27 AM
caoilfhionn
I think you should take it up with the author, Mr. ACLU.
9-29-2007 4:36 PM
RecordSage
We're still reading your comments AcesLucky, you haven't been 'silenced'... at least not yet... but 'soon', according to you... we'll be patiently awaiting. Can you give us a more precise date?

Personally, I think it's crazy to have 'muslim day'... although I'd think it'd be just as crazy to have any other group-specific day, especially at an amusement park, which should have nothing to do with religion and open to all.
9-29-2007 8:14 PM
caoilfhionn
Yeah, it's nuts all right. Islam is counter to our culture, but they're doing their best to make us dhimmis. Examples are CAIR (related to Hamas) and their pursuit of the Fox News 24 for portraying terrorists as muslims. So they bowed down to Islam and put on a disclaimer. CAIR also went after the guy with the ANTI-CAIR website, and they're backing the lawsuit to expose the identities of the John Doe's that identified the Islamists who were acting strangely on that flight in Minnesota. If people think these things aren't happening their eyes aren't open.
9-29-2007 8:45 PM
jatfla
"All your civil rights will soon be gone, too."

Yes, we're aware of that.
9-29-2007 8:48 PM
caoilfhionn
I have a problem when people are living among us pretending to be our friends while plotting our destruction, like the Islamists are doing.

That's why it's important to remain ever vigilant.

They are taking advantage of our freedom in order to destroy it.

That's what I don't like....and under sharia law I wouldn't be allowed out of the house without a burqa.
9-29-2007 9:11 PM
RecordSage
I think with your sentiments, under their laws, you'd be a lot worse off than just having to wear something. Thankfully, we don't live under their laws.
9-30-2007 9:55 AM
AcesLucky
I think you should take it up with the author, Mr. ACLU.
I must have made a mistake. I thought for sure you were saying "We are very clearly being invaded...."

Wasn't that YOUR comment? Another religion dares be out in the open in public? WTF! How DARE they!

And yet when someone complains about the Ten Commandments or a Nativity scene, people run screaming "persecution!" "WE HAVE RIGHTS!"

Good grief. The rights you're talking about are not about justice, they're about "just us".

"Yeah, it's nuts all right. Islam is counter to our culture, but they're doing their best to make us dhimmis."
Got that right. ALL theological government is counter t...
9-30-2007 11:13 AM
bignosemousie
The rights you're talking about are not about justice, they're about "just us".
Catchy!
9-30-2007 3:07 PM
AcesLucky
Personally I hate defending Muslims. It's like defending the rights of the Klan. Muslim laws and views are as archaic and unjust as 1st century old testament laws.

Most of these religious laws, Christian - Muslim - Judaic, are completely insane.

But if they are Americans, they have every right that Americans have, or our Constitution is just like Bush says, nothing more than a piece of paper.

As long as they don't break our secular laws, any bass-akward religion can be expressed. Religious freedom is a right. As it should be.
10-1-2007 10:09 AM
The REAL Napster
But if they are Americans, they have every right that Americans have, or our Constitution is just like Bush says, nothing more than a piece of paper.

As long as they don't break our secular laws, any bass-akward religion can be expressed. Religious freedom is a right. As it should be.
That's the point. Others can come to America and do as they wish, maybe more. Try having Catholic day in Saudi Arabi. No? How about Protestant Day in Iran? no again? As the clip so plainly points out, America offers freedoms to those who don't offer them to America.
10-1-2007 11:16 AM
arifsali
Napster, you have a good point and I agree, but what exactly are you saying? That America should now become like these other countries?
10-1-2007 11:33 AM
AcesLucky
That's the point. Others can come to America and do as they wish, maybe more. Try having Catholic day in Saudi Arabi. No? How about Protestant Day in Iran? no again? As the clip so plainly points out, America offers freedoms to those who don't offer them to America.
Good. Then we are in agreement. That IS the point. We are NOT in Saudi, or any other theocracy (whether they call it democratic or kingdom). We are here in America. And in America we offer freedom to worship whatever religion a person wants.

They do NOT offer that elsewhere. That's the difference between us and them. We allow freedom.

Now, are you advocating as caoilfhionn appears to be, that we NOT give them f...
10-1-2007 11:44 AM
The REAL Napster
AcesLucky- You asked alot of questions and I'll try to respond in as few words as possible. I think the freedoms America offers are a great thing, no doubt. However, we must be aware that there are elements out there working against America and her freedoms by using freedoms against us. We must remain true to freedom and realize it wasn't god-given or inherited, it was paid for by bloodshed. And with bloodshed it will be taken away.
10-1-2007 11:48 AM
AcesLucky
"...we must be aware that there are elements out there working against America and her freedoms by using freedoms against us. We must remain true to freedom and realize it wasn't god-given or inherited, it was paid for by bloodshed. And with bloodshed it will be taken away."
Agreed 100%
10-1-2007 12:37 PM
arifsali
napster, I don't agree. Before the bloodshed comes fear and fear is what is in question here.

There could be any denomination of group scheduled to have fun at Great America (ironic connection), but for people to be fearful of them by singling them out as terrorist Muslims is ridiculous at best.

Just because KKK is not in the news lately and Muslims are we're going to pick and choose our fears?
10-1-2007 1:06 PM
The REAL Napster
No, the point is that America is making exceptions for one religion only and not ALL of them. Like I asked and nobody answered- Why not a Catholic day? OR protestant day? That is not fear but BIAS, plain and simple. America is about freedoms for all so where are those days at Six Flags? Don't spin the title into fear, when BIAS rears it's ugly head. Oh wait- BIAS is ok as long as you are for it, I get it now.
10-1-2007 1:16 PM
arifsali
napster, without even looking at the details of this event, I can tell you with certainty that this IS NOT a Muslim Day at Great America in Dallas. Some group of local Muslim group may be calling it as a title to attract other Muslims, but it is not a Muslim Day.

There could perhaps be thousands of Catholic days, carnivals, festivals, fest etc at any given day in any given city, but for us to look at them as Catholic Day or Muslim Day is being off the mark.

The person who clipped this and have made initial comment is ignorant, and for others to join in this ignorance is nothing but more ignorance.
10-1-2007 1:24 PM
arifsali
Oh wait- BIAS is ok as long as you are for it, I get it now.
napster, there are times and days when we all can be sarcastic, even bias, but when it comes to sheer ignorance, I tend to prefer being bias with correct information.
10-1-2007 1:30 PM
AcesLucky
Like I asked and nobody answered- Why not a Catholic day? OR protestant day?
Whoa! I took these as rhetorical questions only. Surely you jest? Every Sunday is Catholic day. And if Protestant day was announced for a picnic, who'd care?

How do you figure America is making exceptions for ANY religion? (If they are, its Christian. Seen the Koran grace a court building lately?)

America is in no way embracing Islam or the Muslim faith. If anything, we cringe and bear it.

A day of Christian whatever at Six Flags will be so normal an event, it would go hardly noticed. Like a Christian picnic. Yawn.

You say "Don't spin the title into fear, when BIAS rears it's ugly head." For me,...
10-1-2007 2:32 PM
sahara
A question to any or all of you, have you ever known or spoken to any muslims before? The majority of them do not subscribe to any "terrorist agenda", and are not the radical extremists you are making them all out to be. Ignorance breeds hate and fear. What if all christians were judged by the thoughts and actions of the nazis, who considered themselves christian? It is foolish and irrational.
10-1-2007 3:29 PM
AcesLucky
Ignorance breeds hate and fear.
Yes, you are certainly right. Now...

Tell me. What is the purpose of a suicide bomber, who, in the name of Allah, successfully blows up a bus-full of random children going to school?

Nothing more; just tell me his purpose.

In all fairness, I will ask you after that... "Was he successful?"

Was he successful killing the innocent? Was he successful in planting the seeds of fear? Was he successful in creating the ignorance we have about Islam, about Muslims, about what his faith stands for?

Was he successful in acomplishing his purpose? Becuase our fears and ignorance are 100% directly related to the success[[b]...
10-1-2007 3:42 PM
arifsali
AcesLucky, you ask critical questions and I like that. May I ask you this: does the purpose come first or the reason?

For example, for a mercenary, mafia or hired killers to kill or blow something up, the purpose comes first (their purpose to earn a living).

For an average human being to become as they say "terrorist" and then to blow innocent people up, you have to wonder if purpose came first or the reason.

I'm not saying that reasons doesn't come first for hired killers but it is odd for us to look for purposes when we talk about average human beings who turn to such desperate measures.

I'm not blaming anyone here nor do I claim to know the answers, but I just wonder why we do no...
10-1-2007 3:43 PM
sahara
Nothing more; just tell me his purpose. I would imagine his "purpose" was along the same lines as Tim McVeigh's "purpose", revenge for some injustice they feel has been placed upon them or those with whom they sympathize. Understanding the reasoning of religous FANATICS is no simpler than understanding the mind of a serial killer or even an animal abuser, why would Daumer eat people? I have no ideas, do you? I would never do those things. Why would a woman drown her babies? Why were witches burned? I do not profess to have all answers, do you?
10-1-2007 4:24 PM
AcesLucky
For an average human being to become as they say "terrorist" and then to blow innocent people up, you have to wonder if purpose came first or the reason.
I'm guessing, for example the Palestinians, have been so oppressed, so financially impoverished, so desperate, that they would do anything to alleviate their painful condition.

They are backed into a corner with no strong enough ally to help them. They have no choice. Through attrition they are already dead. Therein lies reason.

For the Muslim, however, who does so as a form of religious honor... I don't want to be anywhere near this person.

Their "reason" might be lofty! To die for Allah! Can't get loftier than that, eh?...
10-1-2007 4:38 PM
AcesLucky
"I would imagine his "purpose" was along the same lines as Tim McVeigh's "purpose", revenge..."
You might be right, but then, where does the religion fit in? I might be wrong in thinking it has a religious purpose. Maybe they are just suicide bombers that just so happen to be Muslim.


Understanding the reasoning of religous FANATICS is no simpler than understanding the mind of a serial killer
Humm. Sounds like you too think there's a religious connection.

I have no ideas, do you? I would never do those things. Why would a woman drown her babies? Why were witches burned? I do not profess to have all answers, do you?
Not all of them, b...
10-1-2007 6:42 PM
sahara
Ahh, Aces, you are fun! And have inspired me to do a new clip! Thanks!

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