alanocu says: BIZARRO - some of this NSFW; here's another link: http://www.mirrorandart.com/ interesting... "Paul is dead" "I buried Paul."? how cool.... how do you copme across such interesting sites? *come I'm a work-at-home guy with a small marketing business, so I probably have much more time on my hands than most! Most of the stuff I find is through RSS feeds that I've subscribed to....it's by far the fastest way to scan tons of information....Google Reader is one of my best friends!! I almost didn't clip this one because of that last photo - maybe somewhat blasphemous for some... I kinda agree with some of the comments at the link. You can hold a mirror up to a lot of things and find some interesting sights, and the human brain tries to put faces on everything. Still, a few of those were pretty good (others were quite a stretch though). I agree some of these things can be a big stretch. pretty much fun. Bizzardo da Vinci .... -)) we like to stretch alan, go on surprise us .. if we won`t be flexible we might get too stiff .... Don't need any adulteration of Leonardo works to have a vision of ugly or strange or erotic or funny figures. An imaginative view of my wallpaper usually answers this purpose. amazing - people really do have a lot of time on their hands! Anyone ever hear of the Ink blot test? Ever look at clouds, or that fake wood or marble wall board. Like someone else said, the brain tries to take something that doesn't make sense from it's experience, and recognize thinks in the chaos. But Leonardo was famous for his ability to mirror write. He kept his notes in mirror text so no one else could read them. So there may be more to this with his work than in other subjects where it's applied. I have a reproduction of one of his notebooks released at an exhibition in the 80's. It's completely readable in a mirror, but looks like gibberish otherwise. Yep - too much time on ones' hands ?ti t'nsi, flesti errazib s'tahT ?tra fo seceipretsam gnitaneila yb seirerrazib yna rof gnigammur ,noitasnes rof gnivarC Interesting that there was so much negativity about possibilities at the site. Is it a backlash from conservatives over the Da Vinci Files, or just reluctance to research fully before professing to know more than people who have spent lifetimes studying something which may be important to their religion/understanding. tabsey said: mona said: hmmm It seems like people have made careers (and movies) from studying da Vinci's work and code (as tabsey mentioned). I'm amazed at the time and effort da Vinci spent creating this.... ?ti t'nsi, flesti errazib s'tahT ?tra fo seceipretsam gnitaneila yb seirerrazib yna rof gnigammur ,noitasnes rof gnivarCwhoa! can't decrypt that code Don't need any adulteration of Leonardo works to have a vision of ugly or strange or erotic or funny figures.can't say my wallpaper has ever triggered strange or erotic images for me; that might be a good clip sometime....'Wallpaper's erotic and strange impact on our imagination.'? alanocu said:That's easy. It's The Da Vinci Code, sort of. --- Do you see the smiling moon top left (at about 11 o'clock), half-covered by a tree trunk, cheerfully communicating with Nietzsche in this wallpaper, and, near the center at half past four, Mary and Joseph smiling at their baby? One's mind's eye creates one's ideas of the being. Sensual apperception is more than a mere recording: it's a projection from the inside to the outside. (Cf. Kant et al.) There is a truly surprising and obscene image hidden by Leonardo himself in this same drawing. Baby Jesus' arm is drawn as a penis. You can't see it here, but it has been revealed here: http://altreligion.about.com/library/davinci/bl_differentdvc13.htm It is also featured on digg: http://digg.com/world_news/Revealed_Leonardo_da_Vinci_Hid_an_Obscene_Image_in_Beloved_Religious_Work I repeat: One's mind's eye creates one's ideas of the being. Sensual apperception is more than a mere recording: it's a projection from the inside to the outside. What is claimed to be "revealed" here is the disposition ("Alternative Religions"!) of the revealer. I'd like to add: Children love to play the game Let's-make-the-world-a-mystery when they feel bored. Top marks Johanna, for pedantic pontification. However, in your world, or are we in Kant's, all truth then is simply what we read on the insides of our crania. It leads to a reality denying ignoramus/ignorabimus weltanschauung. If you're happy there, great...some of us like to get our heads out of the sand once in a while...it's an evolutionary advantage. Thanks for paying attention. Ha ha, angostura, that's funny. We are talking about Leonardo's The Virgin and Child with St. Anne and St. John the Baptist, right? Have a look here (621x842px) and there (701x1000 px). You view little Jesus's arm as a penis (the heck whose penis should that be?). I however view Jesus's left arm as an arm, and on its end, where you see a glans, I see an opened(!) hand, the bland gesture of which underneath little John's chin is making the latter raise his eyes to Jesus's right hand that is giving him a blessing sign. (This ficti... My...my, Johanna, guess I hit a nerve. If you read the rest of that article, you might understand that you see exactly what YOU were meant to see, from a very different world where you could either agree that fanatical repression was all sweetness and light, or you could be burnt alive for seeing the truth. That's the world of Leonardo and many other great thinkers like Copernicus and Galileo. There was, however, an underground movement of those intellectually stifled called hermeticism. It was the precursor of modern science. It wanted to see reality a bit closer, unlike you who want to show it to me from farther away. These were real people, not plaster saints, and they often had a wicked... In again, angostura. I see, making little Jesus's left arm a monster penis, in a draft for an altarpiece, was an expression of "an underground movement" which "was the precursor of modern science". This is absurd idle speculation and defames Leonardo as a partial nincompoop. Leaving this aside, I establish as a fact that our positions concerning the perception of things, converge in the end: What we see and as what we view it, depends on what we look for and how we see it. Albeit your wording, "you see exactly what YOU were meant to see" (sort of being either deceitfully bamboozled by the painter or brainwashed by the ruling system at the time of his), is critically askew. Are y... Let's not argue sweetie, just take a close look at this: http://forums.about.com/n/pfx/forum.aspx?tsn=1&nav=messages&webtag=ab-altreligion&tid=2550 Bye now! Dancing in a round is fun, sometimes. A picture is a communication medium. The artist's visual vocabulary and the viewers' visual vocabulary are not necessarily congruous. The viewers' interpretations do not necessarily meet the artist's intentions, especially when - as in the case of Leonardo's cartoon The Virgin and Child with Saint Anne and Saint John the Baptist (National Gallery, London) - the object in question (it's a draft!) is partially not elaborated. But, believe [url=http://www.informatik.uni-bremen.de/~... One's mind's eye creates one's ideas of the being.It's like with the Rorshach inkblot test. The idea being that what the viewer sees in an inkblot, supposedly depends on his internal world. In this regard, isn't Jesus' little arm just a kind of inkblot test? I see a little hand btw but could easily see a glans, once it was pointed out. Thanks for jumping in thisnamecantbetaken. To the question "...isn't Jesus' little arm just a kind of inkblot test?"...my response would be Yes and No. Yes, because as Johanna has pointed out, there is no view without point of view. No, because this is not a random pattern, it is a purposefully designed image by one of the world's greatest masters of visual ambiguity. He was also fascinated with the anatomy and function of the penis, and has left us many sketches of it, to say nothing of the many more that were destroyed. As to why, your guess is as good as mine, however, I started by reading the article from the beginning and found plenty to think about and look up: http://altr... BTW, there's a new and even more spectacular set of images on this topic with some serious explanation as well at this site: Divertimento da Vinci http://divertimentodavinci.blogspot.com/ |
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