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6-9-2008 3:40 PM298 views
abailart says:
Basically, the neuron or nerve cell, and its synapses is no longer seen as fundamental but as container for smaller structures, notwithstanding the importance of synaptic connectivity.
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6-9-2008 4:32 PM
Silkweaver
I find the theory of quantum computation at this sub neuronal level hardly credible. As much as it is compelling to try and solve the grand mystery of consciousness with another grand mystery, of quantum mechanics, there are serious obstacles to such an attempt. It is nevertheless an interesting hypothesis.
6-9-2008 5:22 PM
abailart
The world inside a neuron is new to me at this level, and it is this I find interesting. So although I have visited a few 'quantum consciousness' sites, it has been while looking for introductory overviews to this aspect of biology.
6-10-2008 2:18 AM
pokkets
A lot of what I've written is speculative, perhaps only an opinion, but I'm sure, considering what is known about thought, there are a large number of neurologists that would only be able to argue by presenting another opinion.
A neuron can be in a thought sequence, but the beauty is in the way thoughts are co-ordinated, and regulated, and preserved in a way that they can exist on their own, or be a part of any number of associations, where the neuron is part of a number of thought streams simultaneously. Perhaps even in the holographic sense, not only an element in an idea, but with a reflection of the complete idea within it. An association being a thought that can represent any number o...
6-11-2008 11:19 AM
abailart
pokkets, I resonate with the comment there. Neuroscience is an interest of mine, but although it tells me a lot about much it has nothing relevant to say about a lot of what really matters with the the mind and consciousness. There is undoubtedly an ideology characterised by excitement which allows for the most startling leaps of faith and 'understanding' triggered by the constant pulses of neurobiological discovery (which are exciting in their own field). The questions are just pushed a step further back. The proper response is always 'So what?' (and there ARE whats and consequences of specifics that can be listed for each case). But the actual inner experience of mind, some of which is cau...
6-12-2008 9:55 AM
pokkets
If we create A.I. will it dream ?
6-12-2008 12:46 PM
abailart
I don't know. An interesting slant is to extend the concept of dream to cover all cognition. Every possible state of consciousness and awareness would be a dream.
6-16-2008 9:17 PM
pokkets
One of the things that seems to be valuable about the prospect of A.I. maybe not the creation it's self, but the perspective with which we approach the study of consciousness, and identity. Even projecting the study into the 3rd person.
That we may learn enough about the ramifications of creation of an independent conscious with free will, to avoid creating something that is in our image.
What was yesterday was a dream.
What will be is a dream.
We are now.
Research into A.I. may tell us things about ourselves that we don't want to know, but that we need to learn to have a future as a species.
Facing and overcoming our fears, rather than burying them in our subconscious- the root of our dreams.
6-18-2008 3:11 PM
abailart
The tiny bit I know about AI came via looking at metaphor and metonymy, and how AI research throws some light on these (which just happen to be major mechanisms in Freud's examination of 'dreamwork'),
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