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12-9-2007 9:42 AM998 views
Hormones speak louder than Hallelujahs apparently.
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12-9-2007 1:18 PM
meancookie89
Duh!!!! Okay if teens want to have sex the whole thing about saving it is so foreign right now, really it's a lost cause. What should be thought is use of contraceptions, condoms etc. Believe it or not my generation thinks its funny, why cause what does some stupid religious crazy person care if i want some, I'm not gonna wait to get married to get some my generation doesn't believe in waiting nor being restrained but we will do as we please and get what we want damn it! F**k abstinence get me vibrator hahahahahaaah!!!!
12-9-2007 1:35 PM
cabanaben
AMEN to that MC89. If you do not use it you lose it.
12-9-2007 1:44 PM
debbyski
F**k abstinence get me vibrator hahahahahaaah!!!!
http://www.pleasuremenow.com/index.asp?PageAction=VIEWPROD&ProdID=2533

Fancy, eh? You know what I do when my husband say F*** YOU deb? I say "Yes, Please"
12-9-2007 2:38 PM
dirish
Didn't I get married in ' 91? yeah, I got married in ' 91 and quit the bar circuit- the birth rate dropped? I hadn't noticed-
12-9-2007 7:17 PM
righthand
Germans make great motors, don't they, Debbyski
12-9-2007 9:05 PM
debbyski
My ultimate fantasy Righty, to have sex with a mythical creature
12-9-2007 9:13 PM
imfeelngood
Woa to MC89. Sorry, but MY GENERATION believes in abstinence. I'm 19 years old and still a virgin. All my best friends are too... wanna know the difference between us and the rest of teens who who say "gimme the vibrator!"..? We were raised in apostolic, CHRISTIAN homes. We've been taught properly by our parents and where our parents may have lacked, our PASTOR stepped in. You see, screw the new age " have sex with anything that walks" ideology.. there's still some of us with a lil dignity, self-respect, honor, and yes... SUBMISSION TO OUR GOD! Ok, thanks for takin' time to read my comment... I'm Out - P.O.H
12-9-2007 9:18 PM
debbyski
Let me know how that works for ya Imfeelngood. Your user name seems to be freudian in nature.
12-9-2007 9:20 PM
SteveJohnSteele
When I was 16 (legal age of consent in UK) I had 'sex education class' at school, I complained that it seemed like a repeat of 'human biology' - sperm, egg, intercourse - and not in fact about sex.

My opinion is that if we was taught SEX then teenager would have something to release their sexual tension.

As it is, teach only intercourse and intercourse is what you get - and the resulting pregnancies.
12-9-2007 9:31 PM
SteveJohnSteele
Oh and a word about the Bible ...

The term Virgin has changed somewhat over the years - could have been maiden (implying age), or simply a woman who had not given birth - may not have meant no sex.

It seems to me that Christianity is a male lead religion and treats women somewhat like objects, "if your husband dies, his brother should take you"

Virgin + Marriage insures that the children are his - and what man wants to raise someone else's kids.

Transmission of disease.

So - I'd like to know WHY does the Bible say a person should be a virgin. And is this just for the woman or should the man also be a virgin ?

footnote ... Song of Solomon
12-9-2007 9:42 PM
thisnamecantbetaken
WHY does the Bible say a person should be a virgin.
Have you seen this movie Steve? It's an interpretation of sex's religious importance. The Great Arcanum is (apparently) the orgasm.

http://clipmarks.com/clipmark/DFDD431C-ED53-49D0-BCE2-6F9675760906


12-9-2007 9:44 PM
imfeelngood
There are a number of passages that say to avoid fornication (using the word used in the King James Version of the Bible). That word is a translation of a Greek word that, I am told, includes all sexual activity outside marriage, including before marriage. In some of these verses it is listed along with adultery, which generally refers to one marriage partner having sex with one not his/her spouse (whether that person is married or not). Some of the passages are: Acts 15:29; Colossians 3:5-6; Ephesians 5:3; Galatians 5:19-21 (calling fornication a work of the flesh as opposed to the fruit of the spirit); and 1 Thessalonians 4:3-5.


That's just the start... check out my Clips and you'll find MORE
12-9-2007 9:52 PM
imfeelngood
And it's a good tactic to target the validity of the Bible.. but it doesn't stand on shaking ground. It's another topic, obviously separate from Abstinence! lol thanks for reading. P.O.H
12-9-2007 10:33 PM
thisnamecantbetaken
This is what the movie says:

It's about the power of Creation. God split mankind in two, male and female to "control" creation and procreation. (Adam and Eve) They were not allowed to procreate (create) unless under the guidance of God. When they chose to eat of the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge, (have sex) they took unto themselves, the power of creation. A power, reserved only unto God. They abused the creative sexual power for physical pleasure and broke the most fundamental rule, given unto them and so they were cast out of the Garden of Eden. The result was pain and hardship... and so on.

So! According to the movie, eating of the fruit (without guidance) results in " an eternity of s...
12-9-2007 11:40 PM
imfeelngood
I watched the movie and for all those reading these post... don't even waste your time watching it. No words can describe the stupidity... lol... That's what I fear about hell the most... not the flames...or eternal torture... but that all the stupid people in the world will be together in one place... and no way out! man that scares me. lol... alright... im done posting here. Thanks guys for the sport... I'm Out - P.O.H
12-10-2007 12:05 AM
thisnamecantbetaken
I'm gonna paste my comment from the other clip here, because it still fits:

"I spend my time, not claiming to know the ultimate truth, but listening to each and every be it weird and wacko idea out there, from east to west, north to south. Religion, UFO's, ghosts, NDE's, etc. Searching for hidden truths? Yes indeed I am and I will till the day I die, I reckon.

Thanks for your comments too. Another little piece of the puzzle of the ultimate goal of understanding. Thank you. "

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12-10-2007 12:16 AM
thisnamecantbetaken
If you reread my comment, I said the movie was an interpretation. One. It's not the first and probably won't be that last. I mean, how many different flavours of religion are there? Sheesh! Someone's gotta know! ~ *LOL*

You see, I am pretty much struggling with why a loving God would condemn sex? That doesn't fit with me. Maybe these guys who made the movie had the answer. Maybe not. Maybe YOU have it. Pray tell.
12-10-2007 12:30 AM
thisnamecantbetaken
And as for we "must avoid fornication."... yes okay, but why? The movie has it's opinion. What do you think? Will you go to hell if you have sex without the "guidance" of God? (Given through marriage?) In what way do you disagree with the movie then?
12-10-2007 12:57 AM
thisnamecantbetaken
Oh, and by the way. I sense a bit of hostility in your comments. Unnecessary. Anyway, seeing that you are a self proclaimed virgin, you can't possibly know, if any "hidden truths" have been revealed to the rest of us. Can you? *LOL*
12-10-2007 5:04 AM
righthand
Woa to MC89. Sorry, but MY GENERATION believes in abstinence. I'm 19 years old and still a virgin. All my best friends are too... wanna know the difference between us and the rest of teens who who say "gimme the vibrator!"..? We were raised in apostolic, CHRISTIAN homes.

Hold up girl. There's a big difference with sharing your vagina with another and some private pleasure with your finger. If you don't get that then join a convent now. At your age, if you can be so willing persuaded into being a died up old prune then the sooner you get treatment or are removed permanently from the scene the better.

You must not believe in the equality of the sexes. God or nature only intended sex to be a...
12-10-2007 5:08 AM
debbyski
seeing that you are a self proclaimed virgin
I sense a bit of hostility in your comments.
Shhhh . . .TN, leave him alone! Saving yourself for marriage is serious business and will leave one incredibly uptight. All this talk about a mythical creature who is a 19 year old male virgin reminds me of a old joke:

Maria had just got married and being a traditional Italian,
she was still a virgin. So, on her wedding night, staying at her mother's
house, she was nervous.
But her mother reassured her. "Don't worry, Maria. Tony's
a good man. Go upstairs and he'll take care of you."
So up she went. When she got upstairs, Tony ...
12-10-2007 6:51 AM
LunaRosa
"KevinHayden December 6th, 2007 at 7:08 am
4

I blame lesbian western soft porn novels."

LOL!
Anyway, it's astonishing how prejudice blinds the institutions. Hormones are real, and it is so contrary to nature predicting abstinence, that it should be considered illegal.

Now I'm gonna read the previuos comments.
12-10-2007 8:32 AM
cabanaben
TN What would Tess say, enjoy with beer and good company'''
12-10-2007 10:40 AM
darkmish
i tihnk sex education should start at home and be followed up at school. It is a parents responsibility to teach thier child about sex when the feel they are of an appropriate age. Some children develop earlier than others. Abstinence as a birth control method is not the cleverest idea though. It's an option but not the only one . if you come from a strong religious background and you truly believe that waiting til your wedding night is a good idea fair enough but the majority of ppl won't. Sex is a personal choice and to make that choice you need to know all the options available whether that be abstinance, condoms or the pill It's not just teen pregnancies that are rising so are STD
12-10-2007 3:54 PM
Jorjor
What's really disturbing is those "purity balls" where adolescent girls date their own fathers, pledge themselves to Daddy and give the fathers a key to their hearts (read: crotches) to be turned over to the groom when they get married. Concessionaires at these dances sell things like panties that say "No trespassing (my father is watching)". That's pretty warped.
12-10-2007 5:57 PM
debbyski
I blame lesbian western soft porn novels.
No one today writes lesbian "fiction" quite like Lynne Cheney.
12-10-2007 10:17 PM
cabanaben
Debbyski He, He, He Lynne Cheney
12-10-2007 11:39 PM
ratilfar
Eeewww...I didn't know that Jesus(tm) wanted to have sex with prepubescent girls? And then they complain about the Catholics!

What daddy needs is not a key but a shotgun, works about as well.
12-11-2007 1:40 AM
cabanaben
ratilfar Us catholics have daughters and shotguns, best self defense weapon, the shotgun not the daughter. With freedom and democracy must come choice; to each his own. Nobody can live your life for you; but some morals and expectations can be instilled without going so far to the Right that Pol Pot looks like a follower of Jesus. Our government kills, tortures, and maims people every day; but they still want to tell us about morals; the pot calling the kettle black.
12-11-2007 6:36 PM
meancookie89
For imfeelngood i don't really care for what the bible has to say about sex reason being the following:

song of Solomon

women viewed as property
-men are not held under same standard

After reading bible from front to back and looking at latin translations and what jesus said (which was always printed in red) i'm like WTF mate!

So look at the bible and religion, it was created by men for control of other men, esp. women, slaves etc. and so that it could be edited to adapt to man's every whim and law. As for your views on sex well has it ever occurred to you that half of the most conservative views are based on the apostal Paul's grimy/ condescending views on sex (o...
12-11-2007 6:37 PM
meancookie89
Cocks are yummy!!!!!
12-11-2007 6:49 PM
meancookie89
oh look at chapter 7, 10 and 12 in the website, this little friend of mine can ripe this book in half and make you look retarded!
12-11-2007 9:18 PM
debbyski
OMG! They are so well, yummy
12-12-2007 4:29 PM
meancookie89
yes, yes, hmmmmmmmmmmm!! I put toppings on them!!!! Ohhh so yummy! heheheh!
12-12-2007 6:40 PM
Lifestar
OMG, you bunch of GITS!!!!
12-13-2007 8:33 AM
dirish
OK slow down now- EVERYBODY! The worst thing any of us can do is rip on the virgin kid- All we are doing is convincing him that he must suffer for his beliefs, and we therefore appear to him to be the godless fools that populate the bowels of Dante's Inferno- Instead we should acknowledge and accept that he has a viewpoint that may be different from ours and thank him for making his views known to us. Sadly enough, when he does get married, he will have no experience, nor will his wife ( given he gets his way ) and the phsycological ramifications will cause both frustrations that we can only imagine, and may even foster a pathological behavior pattern that will indeed cause this boy...
12-13-2007 8:38 AM
dirish
I guess I'm saying this- Check it out what this kids got in store for himself in the very near future, and maybe you can have sympathy for the kid- That is after all what the philosophy of Christ requires of me in this case- As I don't pretend to know what God wants for anyone but me-
I'm gunna wish the best for the kid, Cause the shitstorm on his horizon is something that I would avoid quicker than birthing pain, If it were me-
12-13-2007 8:43 AM
dirish
Speaking as a person that has had the whole Denny's menu on mine ( at one time or another ) I'm forced to ask-
What sort of toppings meancookie?
Is this like an ice cream thing or do you mean mashed potatoes and gravy?
12-13-2007 3:23 PM
meancookie89
I like chocolate syrup and whipped cream and other good yummies oh don't forget the sprinkles!!!!

Mo hahahahahahahahaha heheeheheh

and caramel to mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!
12-13-2007 3:25 PM
meancookie89
sex for procreation my ass! It's for my pleasure!

Happiness oooooh yes!
12-13-2007 5:39 PM
debbyski
*LOL* @mean!
12-13-2007 6:08 PM
meancookie89
hell ya!
12-13-2007 8:21 PM
cabanaben
mc89, debbyski,dirish, TN, you all make me blush, I am such a shy little fellow, Like a virgin touched for the very first time, poop, Madona stole that line. Maybe better to give than receive. Seems like I heard that somewhere before. I hope my father got a lot before he was hung on a cross. mc probably had to use crushed dates and honey, does not sound bad if you like middle east food.LOL
12-13-2007 8:50 PM
cabanaben
dirish Are you talking about a virgin or somebody that is frustrated and may be on American Justice in the future.LOL
12-14-2007 3:17 AM
dirish
No I mean that 19 year old virgin kid- um P.O.H. or whatever they call themselves this generation-
My hearts breakin for this kid- when his "crisis of faith" comes it's gunna come like the roman army dude-
and boy, I hope the neighborhood kids near his house stay inside.
I'm glad he's as deep into God as he is, it gives him strength now, but when real life comes lookin for his due this boy is so screwed- " imfeelingood" thats the guy's name.
well I hope he does- he's harmless, unless he gets a bomb or something. Maybe hearin voices tellin him to cleanse the world- shit this boy could go so south so fast-
hey cabanaben, make debbie write that book too, that would be sooo cool.
12-15-2007 3:31 AM
cabanaben
Dirish You are right, let us not judge, for we will be judged ourselves. Good music and song is the answer, meditation helps, like sitting in a treestand hoping a deer does not walk by.We become predators again, I am slowly becoming aware that LOVE is the way of life; with a few butt kickings along the way.LOL Please write, I got your back brother.
12-15-2007 4:44 AM
dirish
Rock on my friend- Yeah but the virgin kid really does go out of his way to stand on a soapbox and look down, doesn't he?-Oh well, have you listened to the end of "Pot Nazi's?"I'mfeelingood stands among the folks that it's written for, especially the part at th end- the way end!
I love it when righthand goes off on folk like that, who so richly deserve it-
When he calls this kid "honey" that's the best- ha-ha!
yeah I'll leave him alone now, I don't want his mommy calling my mommy about anything, or I won't get to watch "Ultraman tonight-
later cabanaben! oh yeah, feel free to write any time yourself!
12-16-2007 7:28 PM
Jorjor
“It is an infantile superstition of the human spirit to have imagined that virginity could be a virtue and not the barrier that separates ignorance from knowledge.”

— Voltaire
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