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And idiots just claim that those who disagree with them don't know what ANYTHING is. Obama is a fascist and YOU don't have a clue what fascism is. I'd venture to say that people who claim someone that disagrees with Obama is a racist doesn't know what racist means. And reimers, I'm sure you claim to have all the answers and know all there's is to know about everything. I even bet you'll tell us that you USED to be a conservative, and now you're a liberal....because playing the victim is more rewarding.... What would we do without these intellectuals who define progress as raising taxes on American families, regulating the free market to death, infecting kids with Hollywood morality, and ensuring that every abortion-seeking illegal immigrant has a right to medicinal marijuana...? you have just remove all doubt. That's hilarious Clip-on. The person in this list of commentators who claims to have held extreme political views only to switch at some point is......... Willhelm. hahahahahahahahahaha You are too hilarious Clip-on. This clip explains the behavior of a few people on Clipmarks and their "zany" (read: misinformed and willfully ignorant too boot) views. Two of them even made an appearance in the comment section. Please take a bow! How is Obama a fascist? People who claim a government option is competition don't know what competition is. What N2, you mean.... like the nations doctors? And get your words correct.... it's public option. Health Care Reform: Poll shows most Doctors support Public Option as do the majority of the U.S. citizenry. Government regulation is what kills any competition in the insurance industry. The lack of competition isn't a failure of the free market, it is a failure of government interference. The quickest, easiest, and cheapest way congress could increase competition is to allow citizens to buy insurance across state lines. Ah yes, N2 proposes the total defeat of the whole idea of pooling risk, what insurance is suppose to provide. So insurers in whatever unregulated redstate redneck swamp can offer bare to the bones policies that only work for the healthy (who really don't need insurance at all because they are healthy). That's every insurers dream: writing policies they will never have to pay on. Thus the remaining population cannot get insurance at all or only at extremely high costs. Erroneous assumption from n2 part on the whole regulation/competition paradigm. More often than not lack of regulation leads to monopolies/cartels which kills competition. Companies don't want to compete, they want control of their markets so they can secure revenue streams (profit/income). It's the little guy who has minimal market share that wants competition, until such time as it secures a dominant market share. How is Obama a fascist?Fascism is statist. Obama is statist. Fascsim is authoritarian. Obama is as authoritarian as he can be in a representative republic...and gaining more. Fascism evolves out of thuggishness, Obama is a thug who has relationships with BlackLib Theology, Weathermen, SEIU, ACORN, STORM, etc. Fascism cultivates mobilized unity over individual sovereignty. Obama cultivates unity over individualism. Fascists are progressive, third-way ideologues. Obama is a progressive, third-way ideologue. Fascism treats politics and the State as the highest good, as sort of a religion even. It is blatantly obvious tha Obama's view is "All things within the State, nothing ou... More often than not lack of regulation leads to monopolies/cartels which kills competitionSo you think that the regulations that prevent citizens from buying health insurance across state lines promotes competition? Not good competition. It will be a competition to the bottom of the barrel. One can easily say that you don't care for competition either because you don't want to allow competition between the private and public options. The majority of the U.S. citizenry wants a public option and the majority of U.S. doctors support a public option. You N2, find yourself in the minority once again. In response to willhelm’s ridiculous comment. 1. Statism. - Between the end of World War II and the fall of the USSR many Western European nations ran 'mixed' (10-40% public) economies. They were not considered Fasicist. The U.S. is far less than that. 2. Authoritarianism - Here are some of the principles of authoritarianism. 1) rule of men, not rule of law; 2) rigged elections This sounds like George Bush more than it does Barack Obama. 3. Thuggism - doesn’t even deserve a response. Bush - Cheney, end of story. Let’s see the definition of fascism from a known Historian; Robert Paxton who teaches at Columbia University and taught at University of California-Berkeley. Fascism may... My goodness, you are an idiot. There is absolutely ZERO in your comment worth addressind and even less than that is relevant to fascism. Purity has nothing to do with statist-fascsim, but if it did the worse kind of purity is ideological purity...as in absent MSM. As for your projections on Bush and Cheney....just a demonstration of your supreme idiocy. Oh yes, willhelm the brilliant. More of an expert than a Columbia University professor. All willhelm excels in is attacking people. When he has nothing to respond with he falls back on the attack. All willhelms original comment was, was a repeat of the same point over and over disguised with a few word changes. If one is going to claim that nationalizing an industry in an period of economic calamity than the U.S. has had several Fascists. Does anyone here seriously believe the Tennessee Valley Authority which brought up willhelm's inbred Tennessee neighbors to modern times was a Fascist endeavor? Was Woodrow Wilson a Fascist? All the railroads were nationalized in 1917. Was Ronald R... Just keep spewing the ignorance, loon. Anyone interested in an intelligent discussion on fascism should read the comments on this clip. It's way beyond BR's capabilities, but I am confident there are those who get it. What clip? I don't get it because it's total bullshit. As was mentioned earlier on this clip (a clip that actually exists) European governments after World War II owned 10-40% of their economies and no one was calling them fascist. This is yet another attempt by the rightwing nutjob community to try and make something stick on President Obama. First it was that he is a Secret Muslim.....oooooohhhh ........ scary Then it was that he was a Communist ...... ooohhh.. hide under your sheets! Then it was that he is a Socialist ...... ooohhhh... mommy hold me! Now the conservatard speaking points are that President Obama is a Fascist ........ oooohhhhh..... I wet my pants........ Get a life Jeffrey. I'm sorry..This clip. Zzzzzzzz....... A deadlocked debate.... You could at least try to be consistent Jeffrey. You stated earlier that my projections on Bush-Cheney were a demonstration of supreme idiocy yet in your discussion with Ouyangwulong you said Woodrow Wilson was a fascist and then follow that up with... I will say that the Bush Administration is almost exactly a reincarnation of the Wilson AdministrationThe most profound statement in the entire discussion was made by Ouywangwulong: I think you guys are all over reacting, and I suspect both of you know it. Wilson and Bush are no where near the same league as Stalin and Hitler, and its disingenuous to suggest otherwise.... BR. You are far too ignorant to have any measurable level of intentional perception of profundity. Jeffrey, that might mean something if it came from anybody but you. You are merely a pedant in love with your own voice. What was your favorite word for the past several months prior to Fascist? Oh yes, Narcissism. How ridiculous are your statements? Take this one earlier. Fascism justifies ANY action for the common good. Provide an example of any government legislation or decree, in any U.S. administration, that was enacted and promoted as being for the common bad. After that please address your comments, in your debate with Ouyangwulong, where you call Woodrow Wilson a Fascist and then in your argument state that the Bush Administration is an exact copy of the Wilson Administration.... Bobby, what can you expect from someone who believes that Glenn "Chicken Little" Beck is...decent. "logic" or "reason". My bad. |
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