Does it Undo the Christian and Muslims, too?

Here's another thought: Suppose you searched Turkish state archives to discover what happened to Armenians. Suppose you searched American public-school textbooks to study massacres in the Philippines in 1898, or destabilization of governments in Central and South America in the 60s and 70s. I doubt you'd find them.

Transpose those difficulties across an enormous cultural divide, then back 3,000 years in time. And it becomes pretty speculative to argue from a silence that distant that something did or didn't happen.
I can remember when archaeologists were convinced the Philistines never existed. And prior to the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls, it was pretty common theory that the Bibl...

Here's another thought: Suppose you searched Turkish state archives to discover what happened to Armenians. Suppose you searched American public-school textbooks to study massacres in the Philippines in 1898, or destabilization of governments in Central and South America in the 60s and 70s. I doubt you'd find them.

Transpose those difficulties across an enormous cultural divide, then back 3,000 years in time. And it becomes pretty speculative to argue from a silence that distant that something did or didn't happen.
I can remember when archaeologists were convinced the Philistines never existed. And prior to the discovery of the Dead Sea Scrolls, it was pretty common theory that the Bible as we have it was vastly altered from its early forms.

I think we just don't know what we don't know. Science will be an asset to faith, I think. But archaeology as we know it is barely a hundred years old, and hasn't scratched the surface of what there is to find. It's early yet to draw too many final conclusions.

As for the Zionists' claims that the Bible support their ownership of the land, there's a great deal of argument yet to be had about what is meant by those passages, what the impact of the various diasporas was, and, from a Christian point of view, whether a physical place was meant at all.
Long ways to go!

Remember that 12 hours ago I hadn't thought of this religious argument and still haven't formulated it as a whole so there may be temporary holes. I did know about the Exodus myth and the Roman Expulsion myth.

The Egyptians recorded everything. Like the Nazis they recorded the good and the bad and in minute detail. What logic would there be to not recording the sudden departure of the raggle taggled Jews? If true it would be worthy of recording, surely.

I've no desire to undermine 3 religions. None. True or false will not effect Christians nor Muslins in the belief or anything else. However it does effect the Zionists tremendously. They've relied on theses myths as the basis of acquiring ...

Remember that 12 hours ago I hadn't thought of this religious argument and still haven't formulated it as a whole so there may be temporary holes. I did know about the Exodus myth and the Roman Expulsion myth.

The Egyptians recorded everything. Like the Nazis they recorded the good and the bad and in minute detail. What logic would there be to not recording the sudden departure of the raggle taggled Jews? If true it would be worthy of recording, surely.

I've no desire to undermine 3 religions. None. True or false will not effect Christians nor Muslins in the belief or anything else. However it does effect the Zionists tremendously. They've relied on theses myths as the basis of acquiring Israel. No other faith makes a claim on a country or land based upon ancient (mythical) books. NONE! Certainly not after 2.000 years!

Worse is that the supposed jewel of democracy of the Middle East that justifies America's blind allegiance, is dominated and controlled by one version of the Jewish religion. It's like the pope in Rome having a veto on Italian politics and other versions of Christianity home and abroad. This and a lot more all flows from these myths.

Sure. I certainly share your view that Zionism and Jewishness are different sets, and I'm not worried or insulted by letting evidence lead where it may. My thought is simply that a historical argument from three millenia ago based on what the Egyptians wrote or didn't write in a particular moment of their long history, and whether they had motives that are not yet apparent to us, is almost impossible to fairly evaluate. It's like figuring out how much global warming is a result of a specific human activity: at the moment, we just can't say for sure.
I think what is really needed - in the US, at least - is a thorough re-evaluation of the paradoxes of Christian support of the Zionist agenda...

Sure. I certainly share your view that Zionism and Jewishness are different sets, and I'm not worried or insulted by letting evidence lead where it may. My thought is simply that a historical argument from three millenia ago based on what the Egyptians wrote or didn't write in a particular moment of their long history, and whether they had motives that are not yet apparent to us, is almost impossible to fairly evaluate. It's like figuring out how much global warming is a result of a specific human activity: at the moment, we just can't say for sure.
I think what is really needed - in the US, at least - is a thorough re-evaluation of the paradoxes of Christian support of the Zionist agenda. Who says, for instance, that this political entity called Israel is related to the Israel of prophecy? Why did we not hear of this kind of premillenialism prior to 1948? Given the nature of God that we believe to be displayed in the conduct of Jesus, how could the seizure of land and oppression of its peoples possibly be reflective of the God we Christians worship - who is, indeed, much different from the way God is represented in the conquest of Canaan? Why does Jesus so consistently detach faith from places - and especially Jerusalem? "I tell you the truth," he says to a woman from Samaria, "the time is coming when people will worship neither here [in the Samaritan's place] or in Jerusalem, but in spirit and in truth."
Lots of questions suggest the unquestioned backing of the modern state is quite a deviation from what Jesus taught! But what is clear is Jesus' unflagging passion for the weakest in every situation; that's the clear example I think more and more of my Christian colleagues are calling for in terms of the US-Israel relationship.