Set a new framework for the torture debate


	Set a new framework for the torture debate

masbury

5-18-2009 7:11 PM

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masbury says:

For apparently people were being tortured after the invasion of Iraq to coerce stories of an Al Qaeda involvement there before the invasion, for the purpose - not of intelligence - but of exonerating the Bush Administration.

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<li style="margin-left:16px;padding-left: 0px;"><STRONG>Private contractors were conducting torture</STRONG></LI>
<li style="margin-left:16px;padding-left: 0px;"><STRONG>It was torture for political gain</STRONG></LI>
<li style="margin-left:16px;padding-left: 0px;"><STRONG>Pollsters should be asking if Americans support using torture to extract false confessions for political purposes, because that's what happened </STRONG></LI>
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