The most familiar echo among many Pennsylvania women when they discuss Clinton is disappointment. Ask them when they became disillusioned and they can cite the exact moment.

For Clare Howard, from Southhampton, it was the night when Bill Clinton suggested that Obama did well in the South Carolina primary because of his race.

That went too far, said Howard. "It was like they would do anything to win,"

Joan Schmidt, in Levittown, grew tired of hearing Clinton exaggerate her experience.

Jane Dovel, 68, turned away from Clinton after the New York senator's reaction to Obama's comments that Reagan had been a "transformative political figure."

Clinton fired that Republicans hadn't had better ideas. "I don't think it's a better idea to privatize Social Security," she said. "I don't think it's a better idea to eliminate the minimum wage."

That's not what Obama had said, recalled Dovel. "What Clinton said was a blatant lie," "From that moment on she was not to be trusted."

From that moment on? Geez, welcome to the club, lady--Shillary is a corporatist by action, liar by words.