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5-10-2009 8:36 PM
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masbury says:
It may affect your party identification, and it may mean multi-generational trouble for the GOP.
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5-11-2009 12:08 AM
kkcapricorn
LBJ was president when I was 18, but at that time the voting age was 21. I always had this nagging feeling that he was somehow involved in the JFK assassination,
or at least the cover up.
5-11-2009 7:58 PM
pdanzis
Ditto to the above comment re President and suspicion.
5-11-2009 9:05 PM
ratilfar
Clinton just got inaugurated so it would be him.
5-11-2009 9:53 PM
Satchamo
I was eighteen when JFK was sworn in and couldn't get enough of Camelot and in college when he was assassinated. After that, LBJ, I came to dislike LBJ, to not trust him--cheered when I heard his speech "I choose not to run". Could not vote for JFK because I was not 21. LBJ has colored my views of Democratic nominees ever since.
5-11-2009 10:10 PM
jatfla
JFK too, for me. I believed all that hype about him that the Media created. Then I grew up and realized he was just an adulterer/womanizer and his image was just that...a mirage. Never trusted what I saw or heard since.
5-11-2009 11:25 PM
masbury
Interesting comment, jatfla. It seems to me that many - perhaps most - of the presidents never lived up to what they could have been because of a personal moral or character weakness.
Johnson - a pioneer and hero in many ways - yet knew he needed to exit Vietnam but didn't have the political courage to pull the plug and look like a loser.
Nixon - brilliant in opening doors to China, yet taken down by his own scheming and paranoia.
Ford - an exception, seems pretty much WYSIWYG
Carter, likewise.
Reagan - truly brilliant in communication, yet - especially later - completely unable to address AIDS or put his foot down on illegal Iran-Contra activity.
Bush 1 - pretty WYSIWYG
Clinton - missed hi...
5-11-2009 11:30 PM
masbury
Maybe the challenge in understanding history (and, perhaps, life) accurately, is in realizing that most presidents, like most people, are a complex mixture of heroism and cowardice, honor and immorality. Then we can see them without simplistic labels, honor what they did that was good, and see what needs to be done about what they did that was bad.

It's the idea that one of them might have been overwhelmingly good or overwhelmingly bad that makes us cynical and a little blinded, I think.
5-12-2009 7:58 PM
darkeforce
Reagan for me. I was being showered by praises about how he was the greatest president in the 20th Century, and shamefully, I believed it for a while. But some free-thinking friends made information available to me that wasn't sanitized by the White House Press Office, and I started seeing what a douche he was. It's only in the most recent years that I've realized what an utter monster he was. Put aside the fact that he totally stole the thunder of Canada and France in their role in breaking the back of fascist rule in Eastern Europe (a break it has since healed, and is near-fully recovered from; only fascism of a capitalist flavour this time), but Reagan can also be pinpointed as the origin...
5-13-2009 4:06 PM
masbury
Well said, df!
5-16-2009 7:57 AM
brightlight4
Some very interesting comments on that one!!
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