Majorities in the poll believe the plans would give health insurance coverage to illegal immigrants

The Congressional Research Service concluded that, "H.R. 3200 does not contain any restrictions on noncitizens - whether legally or illegally present, or in the United States temporarily or permanently - participating in the Exchange." The exchange includes the "public option." So I guess congress' own research service fell for that 'myth' too?

would lead to a government takeover of the health system

Seems some people have been listening to what the leadership in DC has been saying.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3BS4C9el98

http://bit.ly/Pc9yy

http://www.yo...

Majorities in the poll believe the plans would give health insurance coverage to illegal immigrants

The Congressional Research Service concluded that, "H.R. 3200 does not contain any restrictions on noncitizens - whether legally or illegally present, or in the United States temporarily or permanently - participating in the Exchange." The exchange includes the "public option." So I guess congress' own research service fell for that 'myth' too?

would lead to a government takeover of the health system

Seems some people have been listening to what the leadership in DC has been saying.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3BS4C9el98

http://bit.ly/Pc9yy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fpAyan1fXCE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B-_SGGcJu_c

and would use taxpayer dollars to pay for women to have abortions

As for the House bill as it stands now, it’s a matter of fact that it would allow both a "public plan" and newly subsidized private plans to cover all abortions.

http://factcheck.org/2009/08/abortion-which-side-is-fabricating/

<As for the House bill as it stands now, it’s a matter of fact that it would allow both a "public plan" and newly subsidized private plans to cover all abortions.>

Three decades ago Australian women won the right to terminate a pregnancy. The result: Australian women no longer have to die from botched illegal abortions. Meanwhile in the US women are still being found with knitting needles stuck inside them or bleeding to death after undergoing backyard abortions.

Where is the outcry from Right To Lifers / the Christian Right (ie those who believe it's their right to carry a deadly weapon and shoot innocent creatures in the name of their deity) about the US foreign policy which has contri...

<As for the House bill as it stands now, it’s a matter of fact that it would allow both a "public plan" and newly subsidized private plans to cover all abortions.>

Three decades ago Australian women won the right to terminate a pregnancy. The result: Australian women no longer have to die from botched illegal abortions. Meanwhile in the US women are still being found with knitting needles stuck inside them or bleeding to death after undergoing backyard abortions.

Where is the outcry from Right To Lifers / the Christian Right (ie those who believe it's their right to carry a deadly weapon and shoot innocent creatures in the name of their deity) about the US foreign policy which has contributed to thousands of deaths, including innocent children, globally over the past 50 years? Perhaps the idea of saving the already-living is a too radical? Or maybe it's just easier to go for the soft target...women who are too poor to cope with that extra child etc?

If Right To LIfers spent the same amount of energy trying to improve living standards for US citizens as they do to denying them more a more equitable health care system (http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/163524.php) then one day US infant mortality rates might actually become lower than Cuba's. (source: Central Intelligence Agency World Factbook: https://www.cia.gov/library/publications/the-world-factbook/rankorder/2091rank.html).

You are the one who brought racism into the discussion.

Yes, the topic was a question about why right-wing nut jobs are going off the reservation and beyond the pale.

Racism, many now feel, is one of the reasons.

Desire for Republican victory in 2010 certainly another reasons.

Corporations wanting to protect profits a third obvious reason.

Warmongers and zionist extremist wanting to continue their aggression also involved.

For a fifth reason I'd have to say some of these critics (like "got it wrong Wilson) are JERKS.

Someone is a JERK, imo, when they lie to call another person a liar. Wilson is a jerk, lying, got his facts wrong, and he accused another person of lying...

You are the one who brought racism into the discussion.

Yes, the topic was a question about why right-wing nut jobs are going off the reservation and beyond the pale.

Racism, many now feel, is one of the reasons.

Desire for Republican victory in 2010 certainly another reasons.

Corporations wanting to protect profits a third obvious reason.

Warmongers and zionist extremist wanting to continue their aggression also involved.

For a fifth reason I'd have to say some of these critics (like "got it wrong Wilson) are JERKS.

Someone is a JERK, imo, when they lie to call another person a liar. Wilson is a jerk, lying, got his facts wrong, and he accused another person of lying.

Someone is also a JERK, imo, when they are rude, disrespectful and disruptive of a meeting (or a sport or game), esp. for their own ego aggrandizement.

Meetings don't function if people seek to dominate by shouting insults at each other. Of course, we could be like the Brits Common's Question hour, or start fights to control the gravel, but that's not how our Congress runs.

It's like in sports, if you're out of bounds you are out of bounds. Shouting at the referee doesn't change things.

Right wing nut jobs and JERKS who have their facts wrong (like in this case, specifically, health care was already clearly spelled out as not being availabe for non-citizens) --it's like poor sports who think they can win by shouting at the refs.

The good news is they have failed.

The better news is that the backlash to their poor sportsmenship, warmongering, racism, politics of personal destruction appears set to hurt them Again in the next election.

Why anyone would write to support a JERK, is my question. Do you have an answer for that?

Folks may enjoy some of the cartoons and videos on my Political Action News website this week ( at: www.americancitizenstogether.org ) -- it shows the right wing nut jobs in action.

Wilson was wrong. It was already clearly stated in health care reform legislation that it was for citizens only.

But with scam and weasel thinking he ignored those facts and fabricated a false issue that perhaps this wording was not strong enough -- one Senate committee has indeed given some consideration to that for the common reason of just making it clear and removing any possibility for more Republican lies and distortions, like Death Panels, federal funds being used for abortions, other such Republican lie...

Folks may enjoy some of the cartoons and videos on my Political Action News website this week ( at: www.americancitizenstogether.org ) -- it shows the right wing nut jobs in action.

Wilson was wrong. It was already clearly stated in health care reform legislation that it was for citizens only.

But with scam and weasel thinking he ignored those facts and fabricated a false issue that perhaps this wording was not strong enough -- one Senate committee has indeed given some consideration to that for the common reason of just making it clear and removing any possibility for more Republican lies and distortions, like Death Panels, federal funds being used for abortions, other such Republican lies, etc.

Joe Wilson was just like Kanye West - a rude JERK. His behavior would also make it impossible to conduct political business - giving permission to rude loudmouths attempting to rule by thug behavior rather than brains - even one Republican Congressman have asked him to apologize to the House "because he broke House rules."

It's a simple issue: He broke the rules. He's a jerk.