It sounds like you might be a deist.

ReverendMarkCom said:

I believe that if you are standing alone you are one power. If joined by another being you are two beings. Yes, a higher power. Put everyone/thing together and you have the highest power. It’s quite simple. Many people call this highest power GOD.

Deism is a religious philosophy and movement that became prominent in Great Britain, France, and the United States in the 17th and 18th centuries and continues to this day in the form of Classical Deism and Modern Deism. Deism derives the existence and nature of God from reason and personal experience, in contrast to theism (with reli...

It sounds like you might be a deist.

ReverendMarkCom said:

I believe that if you are standing alone you are one power. If joined by another being you are two beings. Yes, a higher power. Put everyone/thing together and you have the highest power. It’s quite simple. Many people call this highest power GOD.

Deism is a religious philosophy and movement that became prominent in Great Britain, France, and the United States in the 17th and 18th centuries and continues to this day in the form of Classical Deism and Modern Deism. Deism derives the existence and nature of God from reason and personal experience, in contrast to theism (with religions like Christianity, Islam and Judaism) which relies on revelation in sacred scriptures or the testimony of other people.

Deists typically reject supernatural events (prophecy, miracles) and tend to assert that God does not interfere with human life and the laws of the universe. Deists commonly respect divine revelation prominent in organized religion, along with holy books as conveying the reasoning and personal experience of others.

Concerning "sozoman's" comment...

That survey in no way proves the existence of God. The existence of God is not even an issue. What is an issue is can a human prove to any other human what God thinks, wants, says, commands, demands, expects etc...(the mind of God). The answer? NO!

No human has the ability to prove to any other human these things. Because this is true, no human has the right, authority or justification to make the claim they know what God says or commands etc. to any other human.

If God gave us the ability to see, hear, touch, spell, think etc... and then we use these things to investigate the universe that he created and we find in this investigation, truths about that c...

Concerning "sozoman's" comment...

That survey in no way proves the existence of God. The existence of God is not even an issue. What is an issue is can a human prove to any other human what God thinks, wants, says, commands, demands, expects etc...(the mind of God). The answer? NO!

No human has the ability to prove to any other human these things. Because this is true, no human has the right, authority or justification to make the claim they know what God says or commands etc. to any other human.

If God gave us the ability to see, hear, touch, spell, think etc... and then we use these things to investigate the universe that he created and we find in this investigation, truths about that creation that contradict the writings believed to be the word of God, then one of two things has to be true.

The writing believed to be the Word of God are in fact not the Word of God.

OR

The writings are in in fact the Word of God and God has Lied to us in his Word or He has created the Universe such that when investigated by us, it would give evidence that contradicts his Word which again is effectively lying.

The age of the earth is great example. In the bible, the family line from Christ to Adam is given. Using this information, people have calculated the age of earth to be some where around 5 to 7 thousand years old. There is over whelming evidence that the earth is far older than this. (4.5 billion years old). Not only do people say the bible is infallible, the bible itself says it it infallible. If the bible itself states that the bible is the inerrant truth, the moment you prove any single fact in the bible to be wrong, it makes the bible not what it professes to be, the Word OF God. There is no way to get around this fact!!

Yes, one could still use the bible as a self help book. No one has the right uses the bible as a source of justification for the use of power over another human.

Because child molestation is traditionally considered to be “morally wrong” globally among human cultures, it does not follow that this is an absolute truth and in no way provides proof of God. The human culture could have just as easily developed such that child molestation was culturally expectable. If I remember correctly, there have been cultures in history in which sexual acts with children have been expectable.

I personally think that child molestation is wrong. The source of my authority to make this claim stems solely from a human derived standard that has arisen from the traditions of human culture. This tradition is solely the product of human culture and is not an “absolute truth...

Because child molestation is traditionally considered to be “morally wrong” globally among human cultures, it does not follow that this is an absolute truth and in no way provides proof of God. The human culture could have just as easily developed such that child molestation was culturally expectable. If I remember correctly, there have been cultures in history in which sexual acts with children have been expectable.

I personally think that child molestation is wrong. The source of my authority to make this claim stems solely from a human derived standard that has arisen from the traditions of human culture. This tradition is solely the product of human culture and is not an “absolute truth” nor does it come from God. You may try to argue it comes from religions. Religions are apart of human culture and you would be correct to say that religion played a part in developing the tradition of not molesting children. It does not follow though that because religion may have played a part in developing this tradition, it comes from God. Going back to the point I have made again and again, because no human can prove that any religion or writings of religion are from God. This includes any moral or non moral traditions which religions may have infused into the "global human culture". The things that a culture decides to be moral or immoral are not absolute truths. A moral's existence is dependent on a person or culture making a decision to declare it to be moral. A human can not make the claim that “a moral is an absolute truth because God has said it to be” because no human can prove to another human that God has made such a declaration.

I do believe that there is an ultimate truth, God. I also know that it is beyond the capability of any human to prove anything about this ultimate truth. Because of this, I know that I can not justify making any claims about what the absolute truth, God, is.

Just because a human decides to believe in an absolute truth, God, or that a book is the true word of God, it does not make these things true nor does it change the fact that it is impossible for a human to prove to another human anything about absolute truth, God. Again, because of this, no human has the right, authority, or justification to be proclaiming anything about God or that anything is from God such as a moral.

You will not be able to develop a line of logic leading to a proof for anything concerning God. People have a tried for thousands of years with no success. If anyone had ever been successful, everyone would know about it. As long as no proof is given, the only rational thin...

Just because a human decides to believe in an absolute truth, God, or that a book is the true word of God, it does not make these things true nor does it change the fact that it is impossible for a human to prove to another human anything about absolute truth, God. Again, because of this, no human has the right, authority, or justification to be proclaiming anything about God or that anything is from God such as a moral.

You will not be able to develop a line of logic leading to a proof for anything concerning God. People have a tried for thousands of years with no success. If anyone had ever been successful, everyone would know about it. As long as no proof is given, the only rational thing to conclude is that it does not exist. As long as no proof is given, no human has the authority or justification to proclaim what the absolute truth is. This means no human has the authority or justification to tell any other human anything about God. Most important of all, no human has the authority or justification forcing another human to do or not to do anything based on what they proclaim God says. As long as people keep attempting to make such claims, I will aggressively call them on this error.

If you want to do the religion thing, that is great. You just need to except that everything you believe concerning your chosen religion and God is not provable. You also must let this realization changes how you practice your religion. Stop telling people “this is the way it is” to “this is the way we choose to believe it is”. The reason that people of religion do not want to accept this is because it removes all the authority from what they say when they proclaim to the world what God says. Proclaiming that you believe a book is the word of God does not make is so. If you think you can gain justification to use a book as a source of absolute truth based on your proclamation the book to be the true word of God, you are in error.

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My goal here is NOT to try and stop people from believing in God or to discourage the practice of religions.

My goal is to get people to open their eyes to the fact that they are in error if they are claiming justification for and authority to dictate to the rest of the world: what God says is moral or not moral; what God says is sinful or not sinful; or anything about God based on their faith that they know what God says or wants.

Making and accepting this realization does not mean you must give up what you believe.

Making and accepting this realization is not a sign of a weakness in your faith.

What making and accepting this realization demands is that you make a significant chan...

My goal here is NOT to try and stop people from believing in God or to discourage the practice of religions.

My goal is to get people to open their eyes to the fact that they are in error if they are claiming justification for and authority to dictate to the rest of the world: what God says is moral or not moral; what God says is sinful or not sinful; or anything about God based on their faith that they know what God says or wants.

Making and accepting this realization does not mean you must give up what you believe.

Making and accepting this realization is not a sign of a weakness in your faith.

What making and accepting this realization demands is that you make a significant change in your perspective of and attitude toward the rest of the world.

What making and accepting this realization demands is that you must be tolerant and nonjudgmental of the rest of the world.

What making and accepting this realization demands that realize you have no right, authority or justification to try and impose your religious beliefs on the rest of the world by way of the government.

What making and accepting this realization demands that you realize that you have no right, authority or justification to attack and kill people who do not believe what you believe.

What making and accepting this realization demands that you realize that you have no right, authority or justification to do any negative thing at all, to people who do not believe what you believe, ANYTHING!

When you share your beliefs or evangelize, you must always be open and up front about the fact that no human can prove anything about God. Tell them that though we can not prove these things, this is what I believe... this is what I have faith in. If you tell people that you know these things to be absolute truths you are in fact lying to them and yourself.

If all the religions of the world would except this simple fact, that no human can prove anything about God, and then allow the logical impli

One problem inherent in institutionalized religion is the problem of authority. Religious leaders frequently issue judgemental proclamations expecting universal acceptance. This is wrong. The pope has no authority over anyone who is not Catholic; no archbishop, pastor, elder, imam or guru has any authority over anyone who is not a member of their congregations.

Remember back in 2000, when the Southern Baptist Convention revised their statements of beliefs and called, among other things, for wives to "gracefully submit" to the authority of their husbands, formally excluded women from being pastors and called for evangelism to Jews? A lot of people got their noses out of joint about that...

One problem inherent in institutionalized religion is the problem of authority. Religious leaders frequently issue judgemental proclamations expecting universal acceptance. This is wrong. The pope has no authority over anyone who is not Catholic; no archbishop, pastor, elder, imam or guru has any authority over anyone who is not a member of their congregations.

Remember back in 2000, when the Southern Baptist Convention revised their statements of beliefs and called, among other things, for wives to "gracefully submit" to the authority of their husbands, formally excluded women from being pastors and called for evangelism to Jews? A lot of people got their noses out of joint about that, apparently forgetting that if you aren't a Southern Baptist it doesn't apply to you!.

I am not a Christian, so I am free to accept or reject the bible as I see fit. No amount of insistence can force me to accept it as a final authority. If I choose to accept ideas from other scriptures, that is also a right I reserve for myself.

If I concede a religious argument to an ardent believer, it doesn't necessarily mean he's convinced me. It might mean that I'm tired of listening to him and want him to go away.

Ezsparky,

You seem to have fuzzy logic:

"The age of the earth is great example. In the bible, the family line from Christ to Adam is given. Using this information, people have calculated the age of earth to be some where around 5 to 7 thousand years old. There is over whelming evidence that the earth is far older than this. (4.5 billion years old). "

EZ, perhaps the earth is older than 5 to 7 thousands years old. But based on mathematics, mankind's population is right where it should be if we take into account Noah's flood and its time table taking into account wars, disease and world catastrophes.

In addition if mankind has been here for millions of years we would be neck deep i...

Ezsparky,

You seem to have fuzzy logic:

"The age of the earth is great example. In the bible, the family line from Christ to Adam is given. Using this information, people have calculated the age of earth to be some where around 5 to 7 thousand years old. There is over whelming evidence that the earth is far older than this. (4.5 billion years old). "

EZ, perhaps the earth is older than 5 to 7 thousands years old. But based on mathematics, mankind's population is right where it should be if we take into account Noah's flood and its time table taking into account wars, disease and world catastrophes.

In addition if mankind has been here for millions of years we would be neck deep in animal and human remains (bones). Science does not support your theory of mankind being here for millions of years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_population

sozoman- You still have not proved that what you profess to be from God is from God. Your last comment fails to prove anything. You are trying to distract from the only point that is relevant, you can not prove anything you profess to be from God, is from God.

I never made any statements about a theory on how long humans have been on the earth. I did state the "FACT" that the earth is 4.5 billion years old. I also stated the "Fact" that the according to the bible, the earth can be no older than 7 thousand years old. Your last comment fails to prove different. Besides, this is just one example of the bible being incorrect. All of this is not important anyway because the only thing ...

sozoman- You still have not proved that what you profess to be from God is from God. Your last comment fails to prove anything. You are trying to distract from the only point that is relevant, you can not prove anything you profess to be from God, is from God.

I never made any statements about a theory on how long humans have been on the earth. I did state the "FACT" that the earth is 4.5 billion years old. I also stated the "Fact" that the according to the bible, the earth can be no older than 7 thousand years old. Your last comment fails to prove different. Besides, this is just one example of the bible being incorrect. All of this is not important anyway because the only thing that is relevant is that you nor any other human can prove that anything you profess to be from God is from God. You must except this and the implications of this which is you have no authority, justification or right to be professing anything about God as truth nor to use such claims as a source of authority to do anything.

Your use of the phase "Fuzzy Logic" in correct. Fuzzy Logic is a term to describe a method of computer programing where the program has been designed to deal with decision making situation when there is no clear cut value that is right or wrong. The term "fuzzy" in no way implies bad logic. All humans have or use "fuzzy logic". This programing method is in fact attempting to mimic what humans do when faced with a decision making situation where this no clear cut answer and judgment must be used to make the decision.