 egoldstein says: I wonder if she thinks Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac failed because the people's hearts weren't with God. I suppose that if we prayed more for our mortgage rates to go down we wouldn't be in this mess. POP Religion has no place in politics. Trying to marry the two is akin to trying to cross a cat and a dog. At best it can only produce an abomination. cant make a remark on politics too much as I am a 'polics dummy'! but think it deserves a pop! POP about a zillion times. If there's any political prayer to be had it's that the GOP sinks like a rock. Pop. I love to see clips like this. Seeing the left attack Christianity is really going to suppress McCain's voter turnout and won't energize his base at all. "attacking Christianity" - now that's funny. I don't care what religion she is. Telling citizens that a pipeline won't be built if "the people of Alaska's heart is not good with God" is, in my opinion, a totally inappropriate statement from an elected official and not something i want to be hearing from someone who could potentially be vice president. So you don't like the idea of having a president that prays to God for the wisdom to do what is right and wants to be an instrument of God? It's not the candidate's personal faith relied upon that's the issue here. It's the implication that the rest of the nation should really fall in line with it which is the potential problem. N2sooners, i never said that either. She isn't just praying for the wisdom to do what's right, she's telling citizens that if their hearts aren't with God, that a pipeline they need may never happen. That is an inappropriate use of religion by an elected official in my opinion. And idiotic to boot, since God has nothing to do with it. n2sooners said- So you don't like the idea of having a president that prays to God forI'm not really concerned about my president's belief in God or lack of the same. I am very concerned though with them wanting to be an instrument of God however. A president of the USA must realize that whatever they believe about God they are responsible to lead the country and to be it's chief law enforcer. There is freedom of religion in this country which allows for a great diversity of different belief systems as well as the lack of belief in God to flourish. A leader can guide their own personal life by being an inst... Perhaps God doesn't want a pipeline As with cash, what does God want with oil? What Celestial SUV will he fuel with it? I mean last I heard he had one Son, all the angels in heaven dance happily at the head of a pin and the Holy Spirit is just as ghost, so whassup with the extra space and the cup holders? Everyone knows God works with solar. Look at how many suns and stars are out there. DUH!  I don't think they'll ever realize the truth that politics and religion do not go together. There's only one God so they say so how can the government tell God whose side he's supposed to be on. I'm not really concerned about my president's belief in God or lack of the same. I am very concerned though with them wanting to be an instrument of God however."Lord — Protect my family and me. Forgive me my sins, and help me guard against pride and despair. Give me the wisdom to do what is right and just. And make me an instrument of your will," Barack Obama Then there is always the Obama Prayer Team. http://my.barackobama.com/page/group/ObamaPrayerTeam pop for darkduskx remark Bloody Hell! I have been observing the American election (I am a Brit living over here - for awhile) with growing concern. Putting aside the immediate issues of the War (profiteering), the long suspension and gradual elimination of real democracy, the environmental concerns, deepening poverty and, well - where do I stop? Putting aside all that - this woman (and the machinery behind her) worries me more than anything else. Religion, when filtered through the machine of State, will bring nothing - as other posters have said - but ignorance, intolerance, blood-shed and knee-jerk reactionism. As the wars for resources (arable land and water as well as oil) become unavoidable - if things don... n2sooners, a candidate praying personally for guidance is not the same thing as declaring that a nation is carrying out God's will and that its Constitution supports that. Amen! Pop for Wiccan's perfect comments. No one has the right to impose their beliefs on anyone. What she holds dear to her heart is between her and God and can be shared but not mandated to others. (PS/ I am not anti-Christian, n2sooners, because I am one) There is no difference between the two. Both statements are based on personal beliefs. Neither statement establishes a state religion. I didn't see anywhere Obama specified to God that he only wanted to be his instrument in his personal life and not his public life. If a republican candidate had made the same comment about wanting to be the tool of God the left would be all over it. But like I said, please continue the attacks on her religion. All you accomplish is further strengthening McCain's base, something he would have a hard time doing without your help. I think God's will has to be done in unifying people and companies to get that gas pipeline builtShe is saying that God wants the pipeline. Big difference. What does Go want or care about such mundane things? Why attribute this to a higher power when it is she that wants the pipeline? Makes it sound like the thing is God ordained, and that is the problem I have with it. And yes I do find Obama's prayer a bit troubling as well. “Jesus answered: “Watch out that no one deceives you. For many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I represent the Christ,’ and will deceive many.” - Matthew 24:4 "By their fruits you will easily recognize them. Are grapes gathered from thorns or figs from brambles?" - Matthew 7:6 "'I was hungry and you gave me food, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink'...Then the righteous will answer him, 'Lord, when was it that we saw you hungry and gave you food, or thirsty and gave you something to drink?...'Truly I tell you, just as you did it to one of the least of these who are members of my family, you did it to me.'" Matthew 25:35, 37, 40 Oh goody! Multiple bible quotations are the first action you make on the system, avatke. Tell me we can expect some original thought; some real input, please. |
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