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12-12-2007 9:11 PM470 views
jatfla says:
I don't want to make this too much of a blanket statement, but I believe this is where Eastern and Western cultures clash. The Judeo-Christian *traditional* sensibilities will not accept a persons *right* to kill another person. Whether for religious or cultural reasons. A "teen issue"....maybe. We all have them if we have teens. Murdering them should warrant an arrest no matter their *crimes*.
The poor mother. This is pitiful.
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12-12-2007 9:53 PM
arifsali
"I don't want the public to think that this is really an Islamic issue or an immigrant issue," said Mohamed Elmasry of the Canadian Islamic Congress. "It is a teenager issue."
You are an idiot.
12-12-2007 10:23 PM
bignosemousie
You are an idiot.
Exactly.
12-12-2007 11:46 PM
SteveJohnSteele
Im confused

Arifsali and Bignosemousie are you saying that Jatfia is an idiot ?

Are you supporting the Father's 'right' to kill his daughter ?
12-13-2007 8:59 AM
bignosemousie
SJS, we are calling Mohamed Elmasry an idiot for trying to convince people that is is a "teenager issue."
12-13-2007 8:59 AM
bignosemousie
Oops. ...that this is a "teenager issue."
12-13-2007 2:15 PM
arifsali
Steve I'm not calling jatfla idiot, though she's a republican Okay, okay, just kidding.

That Elmasary guy has to be an idiot to call this homicide a teenager issue. He was forcing hijab on this poor girl out of his religious conviction, he's an idiot to be thinking hijab as anywhere near a religion, it is not.
12-13-2007 2:39 PM
jatfla
What gave it away arifsali? :~)

What is disturbing (apart that male family members can kill their female family members) is that this is part of some others culture/religion. It's practiced in many places and has been for hundreds of years. Now when this comes to *live* within our Western culture, they may not see it as a criminal issue but a religious one; ie. separation of church and state. Slippery, slippery slope again.
12-13-2007 6:34 PM
arifsali
It's practiced in many places and has been for hundreds of years.
Actually this would be a sensationalist comment. The honor killing is surely being practiced and it should rightly be condemned, but from the outside looking in, especially through the big media lens, one is way too many and not accurately so.

Hope you understand what I'm saying. Just take this example from Canada, I don't live in Canada but I can bet that this is first of its kind. You may obviously see the outcry and news "all over" and you may also not see Muslims condemning it all over (media won't report it properly) but that doesn't mean that honor killing is a norm in Canada.

There is a problem and it...
12-13-2007 8:16 PM
jatfla
Good grief, are you insinuating that I don't condemn this? That's why I brought it up here. When I said that it's been practiced for hundreds of years, my point was that it is not just an Islamic issue but a tribal/cultural practice that will clash with the sensibilities of our Western civilization.

I'm anxious to see how Canada, or any other Western Country, will handle this murder and deal with the entitlement mentality of these male family members who believe this is necessary.

I believe it is 'sensationalist' to our culture. It's horrible. It's beyond our comprehension. How will it be handled now that the practice has arrived to our countries? That's the question I'm hoping wil...
12-13-2007 10:11 PM
swampfoxz
This is not a teen or Muslim issue,this is a murder issue.
It should be regarded as such.Canadian law has no options but to treat it as such.Thank God,however you interpret God.
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