Johanna, your observations about the differences between the way comments and remarks are handled in ClipCast and Classic View are definitely correct. We're going to brainstorm about how to improve remarks and comments in ClipCast, but i think this really boils down to the fact that Classic View is a full web site and ClipCast is a extension of that for enabling people to showcase their clips anywhere. It is simply unrealistic to think that the 'box' we created for showcasing your clips elsewhere could mirror the experience in Classic View.

That said, in our Facebook app, we have implemented remarks and comments just like we treat them in Classic View...because there we have the room to wo...

Johanna, your observations about the differences between the way comments and remarks are handled in ClipCast and Classic View are definitely correct. We're going to brainstorm about how to improve remarks and comments in ClipCast, but i think this really boils down to the fact that Classic View is a full web site and ClipCast is a extension of that for enabling people to showcase their clips anywhere. It is simply unrealistic to think that the 'box' we created for showcasing your clips elsewhere could mirror the experience in Classic View.

That said, in our Facebook app, we have implemented remarks and comments just like we treat them in Classic View...because there we have the room to work with.

Regarding video not working in ClipCast, that is a problem we can't seem to figure out yet. We'll have to make a decision in the next few days about whether to temporarily pull support for video within ClipCasts. We'll keep you posted.

Here's a thought - and I don't know how much of a pain in the ass it would be to do it, but it would be my solution:

A butterfly format.

I've thought about it a lot, and I think this would be the most comfortable way to integrate the clips and comments together in the same visual field.

On the left you have a scrolling box with the clip, then from the right side (perhaps a collapsable pull-out window) you have the scrolling mirror window, this one showing the comments.

Space can certainly be an issue for this, but I think another bonus would be that it would have a book-like feel, and for anyone who has seen my Facebook site (Austin M. Kramer) you may have noticed, I'm a little obsessed ...

Here's a thought - and I don't know how much of a pain in the ass it would be to do it, but it would be my solution:

A butterfly format.

I've thought about it a lot, and I think this would be the most comfortable way to integrate the clips and comments together in the same visual field.

On the left you have a scrolling box with the clip, then from the right side (perhaps a collapsable pull-out window) you have the scrolling mirror window, this one showing the comments.

Space can certainly be an issue for this, but I think another bonus would be that it would have a book-like feel, and for anyone who has seen my Facebook site (Austin M. Kramer) you may have noticed, I'm a little obsessed with books. However, mimicing the book would be most organic interface, that way I could leaf through my clips and comments.

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Other issues I'm noticing:

Sure, flash is cool, but I can't use my Firefox spell checker utility in the flash windows, so I have a feeling things could get really ugly here for me!

Also, I'm having a bit of trouble following up my comments, simply because the pop button and the clip button carried through, but there's nothing for comments. Could you guys set up a default clipcast for all the clips a user comments on?

In the same vein, I would do this myself from the classic view, but there's no tool for batch sorting my clips. Thus I have to go back and assign clips to my new clipcasts one by one. This is very time consuming, and I'm only having to sort a couple hundered. I'm imagining something where I can "Select Clips for X Clipcast" and then i highlight all the ones I want from a given clip roll.

Another alternative (perhaps easier) would be to automatically add any clip I comment on into my main clipcast, since after all, it does represent part of my activity on clipmarks.

Is the ClipCast meant to replace the Classic-View-ClipMarks sometime?
I can't do without the list of clips+Titles on the left side of the Player/Viewer, so that I can sift through the clips and open/play/view only those I want. That's essential if ones time is limited.
In the ClipCast, this list is below the Player, and only part of the according clips are listed (I couldn't spot anything like "see the next 20 clips in this Cast"). The right side of the clip contains information that is not constantly needed, and takes less place than the clips-list. Maybe they could change places?
I find myself switching to the classical view every time...
But I find the ClipCast concept itself is great a...

Is the ClipCast meant to replace the Classic-View-ClipMarks sometime?
I can't do without the list of clips+Titles on the left side of the Player/Viewer, so that I can sift through the clips and open/play/view only those I want. That's essential if ones time is limited.
In the ClipCast, this list is below the Player, and only part of the according clips are listed (I couldn't spot anything like "see the next 20 clips in this Cast"). The right side of the clip contains information that is not constantly needed, and takes less place than the clips-list. Maybe they could change places?
I find myself switching to the classical view every time...
But I find the ClipCast concept itself is great and perfect for embedding in other sites and "spread across the web" as ouyangwulong noted.

But shouldn't the goal be to eventually replace the classic view with a perfected clip cast? I mean, of course now it's still growing, but eventually, couldn't clipcast take over?

The thing that makes facebook so exciting to me is the applets. They are essentially programs run on the platform of a website, not a computer. Clipcast is applets that can be run on virtually any website. Why is this so important?

Operating Systems.

Essentially, an operating system is composed of three parts:

1. A search engine, which finds data on the hard drive and retrieves it when needed.

2. An interface, that allows us to interact with that data.

3. A platform that runs different interfaces so we can i...

But shouldn't the goal be to eventually replace the classic view with a perfected clip cast? I mean, of course now it's still growing, but eventually, couldn't clipcast take over?

The thing that makes facebook so exciting to me is the applets. They are essentially programs run on the platform of a website, not a computer. Clipcast is applets that can be run on virtually any website. Why is this so important?

Operating Systems.

Essentially, an operating system is composed of three parts:

1. A search engine, which finds data on the hard drive and retrieves it when needed.

2. An interface, that allows us to interact with that data.

3. A platform that runs different interfaces so we can interact with that information in different ways. (eg. clipping The New York Review of Books, or shooting my friends with a rail gun.)

Facebook started it, by creating an online platform. What this means is it is becoming possible to create an operating system that is not resident on any one hard-drive, but instead is run from the net.

Clipcast takes it to the next level, because it allows people to take their chosen interface from platform to platform, and creating community networks of entirely new levels of international complexity. (More complex, even, than is possible in the physical world.)

Seriously, we are way down the rabbit hole now! Watch closely, because science fiction is melting into reality.

To bring together the random puzzle pieces of news that add up to what I'm talking about here. There's a lot of big moves being made in the internet industry these days, and they are all heading in a very interesting direction.

I've also refined my thoughts on the importance of Clipcasts and the mobilized, diversified Clipmarks community in the Internet frontiers of Culture, Economy, and Politics here. I make this argument using a comparison with the Islamicization of modern Bangladesh, as explained in Richard Eaton's amazing book: [url=http://www.amazon.com/Frontier-1204-17...

To bring together the random puzzle pieces of news that add up to what I'm talking about here. There's a lot of big moves being made in the internet industry these days, and they are all heading in a very interesting direction.

I've also refined my thoughts on the importance of Clipcasts and the mobilized, diversified Clipmarks community in the Internet frontiers of Culture, Economy, and Politics here. I make this argument using a comparison with the Islamicization of modern Bangladesh, as explained in Richard Eaton's amazing book: The Rise of Islam on the Bengal Frontier.

Point taken, but...

It's ironic that this clever exchange of poetry, taking place through the forum of clipmarks, would seem to suggest that we are all involved in something deeper?

I certainly dismiss many clippers as shallow and seeking diversion, just as you suggest, but there is a core of people who do seem to use this as a tool to provoke civilized exchange of ideas.

And is it not better to be well informed? An opinion supported by evidence is infinitely better than shrill confirmation of ones own pejorative bias.

In America there is often a "Don't confuse me with the facts!" attitude, and there is a reduction of information down to disposable sound bites. Bush says one thing today ...

Point taken, but...

It's ironic that this clever exchange of poetry, taking place through the forum of clipmarks, would seem to suggest that we are all involved in something deeper?

I certainly dismiss many clippers as shallow and seeking diversion, just as you suggest, but there is a core of people who do seem to use this as a tool to provoke civilized exchange of ideas.

And is it not better to be well informed? An opinion supported by evidence is infinitely better than shrill confirmation of ones own pejorative bias.

In America there is often a "Don't confuse me with the facts!" attitude, and there is a reduction of information down to disposable sound bites. Bush says one thing today and does the opposite the next day. Why? Because he presumes we will not remember, he thinks facts are transient and words merely placate.

But by collecting evidence and organizing our observations we can oppose the streams of propaganda that control information and control our country.

Better still, as we work together in this endeavor, our own views are moderated by the endless variety of voices that find a platform on clipmarks.

There is always someone on Clipmarks to challenge my opinions, and after all, isn't that the most critical element of knowledge, progress and even civilization?

Wait, so I'm confused about this anyway...

Can I delete clips if there has already been activity on them? I've had some clips come up as "deleted" but they aren't really, it seems to just be a temporary server problem integrating the two systems. For instance, some of my clips do that, but they come up in clipcast just fine.

I also haven't explored the delete comments button. I'll agree, I don't know if it's totally cool, but on the other hand, it does provide a way to get rid of offensive comments meant to belittle or intimidate other people, so it might encourage us all to say whatever we have to say nicely.

And finally, I should distinguish from the clip-core v. the clip peripherey. i ...

Wait, so I'm confused about this anyway...

Can I delete clips if there has already been activity on them? I've had some clips come up as "deleted" but they aren't really, it seems to just be a temporary server problem integrating the two systems. For instance, some of my clips do that, but they come up in clipcast just fine.

I also haven't explored the delete comments button. I'll agree, I don't know if it's totally cool, but on the other hand, it does provide a way to get rid of offensive comments meant to belittle or intimidate other people, so it might encourage us all to say whatever we have to say nicely.

And finally, I should distinguish from the clip-core v. the clip peripherey. i think most serrious clippers wouldn't stoop to that level. I find that the more people use this site, the more reasonable they become, or they just leave.

the clip-core v. the clip peripherey

Ouyang, I luv U.
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This↓ is a non-authoritative request from the periphery, which I'd like to direct to the Great ClipCast Fathers' Center:
Would it be very laborious to change the code for the clip titles, concerning the acceptance of charsets beyond ASCII? (See my test clips Test: à à À À α α α α ñ ñ ñ ñ and [url=http://clipmarks.com/clipmark/067D1A38-CDC6-45BC-A9A6-E4EA9129F477/]Display of Umlaute (ä, ö, ü, Ä, Ö, Ü) and other special chars (e.g. ß) in ClipCast clip titles[/url...

the clip-core v. the clip peripherey

Ouyang, I luv U.
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This↓ is a non-authoritative request from the periphery, which I'd like to direct to the Great ClipCast Fathers' Center:
Would it be very laborious to change the code for the clip titles, concerning the acceptance of charsets beyond ASCII? (See my test clips Test: à à À À α α α α ñ ñ ñ ñ and Display of Umlaute (ä, ö, ü, Ä, Ö, Ü) and other special chars (e.g. ß) in ClipCast clip titles.)
Coz I luv German, Swedish, Finnish and Turkish umlauts, and Spanish ñs, and French às etc.
Pretentious? Moi??

Oh, actually I want that too! I've been having trouble clipping in Asian languages, and the clip casts don't like that!

and I luv u too Johanna G.

Also, my arguments for clipmarks aside, I am currently brooding over the infiltration of spam, which seems to make your point perfectly. GRRR.

But I figure as long as we all argue about everything as much as possible (and in as civilized a way as possible) then we can't go wrong. Just challenge everything!

But then TN has a point, because deleting inconvenient commentary robs the clip format of it's sparkling ability to challenge any and every opinion. I don't know that I like this. Couldn't we just have a report user button instead?

By t...

Oh, actually I want that too! I've been having trouble clipping in Asian languages, and the clip casts don't like that!

and I luv u too Johanna G.

Also, my arguments for clipmarks aside, I am currently brooding over the infiltration of spam, which seems to make your point perfectly. GRRR.

But I figure as long as we all argue about everything as much as possible (and in as civilized a way as possible) then we can't go wrong. Just challenge everything!

But then TN has a point, because deleting inconvenient commentary robs the clip format of it's sparkling ability to challenge any and every opinion. I don't know that I like this. Couldn't we just have a report user button instead?

By the way, I don't know what you are talking about, TN. I am mostly surrounded by wonderful and scrupulous clippers these days.

I actually started clipping so people would argue against me, so that I could better understand people's opposing points of view, rather than interpret them through my own stereotypes. And the fact that we can't delete our comments previously very well might have encouraged us all to think more carefully before we comment. If you look over my past clips, I've got a few black eyes, but I'm saving them to remind me!

On the other hand, I think deleting a comment could come in very handy for someone liek me. I'm seriously dyslexic, and spelling properly and getting my sentences well organized can be tough for me on the first draft, especially if I'm thinking very hard or excited, or, lets face it, drunk and sleep deprived. So being able to delete a messy comment and replace it with one that is easier to read might well come in handy for me. Or just an edit comment button.

More importantly, when will we finally be able to POP comments? I suppose I could clip them. (I actually don't mind when people clip my comments, uh, like here... but I just don't know if everyone else feels that way as well.)