I agree: Behind the scenes, behind the PR and propaganda, the USA is murderous.

I recall the news of the assassination in the USA of Chilean former minister Orlando Letelier and his American assistant Ronni Moffitt. It went by in the wink of an eye.

There was another scandal next week. Another flood of horror the week after that. No evidence (till now,perhaps). No real ability to document the evils, raise one's voice or, even then, to push for political change. It would all be laughed off or brushed off...another loony 'conspiracy theory."

Since even the laws are broken, new laws won't even help: We need to elect better leaders and hope for the best.

To be a bit of a Devil's Advocate her...

I agree: Behind the scenes, behind the PR and propaganda, the USA is murderous.

I recall the news of the assassination in the USA of Chilean former minister Orlando Letelier and his American assistant Ronni Moffitt. It went by in the wink of an eye.

There was another scandal next week. Another flood of horror the week after that. No evidence (till now,perhaps). No real ability to document the evils, raise one's voice or, even then, to push for political change. It would all be laughed off or brushed off...another loony 'conspiracy theory."

Since even the laws are broken, new laws won't even help: We need to elect better leaders and hope for the best.

To be a bit of a Devil's Advocate here, too, those who do such policies or support them will say (and believe): "Well, other nations are doing the same thing." War -- or covert actions -- are always going on all the time by everyone.

Since righthand is Irish, (I think) -- or even not -- one of the most ancient Irish myths, for example, ends with the hero (Cool Mulligan, or some name like that) being hunted down by paid assassins sent by the wicked Queen of the South.

Correction: Name of Irish myth great hero is: Cúchulainn,

So...This has been going on before history; going on in every history perhaps every nation; going on now.

The other "red neck," idea is aptly summed up by another Irish reference, the saying: "The devil you inow is better than the one you don't."

At least, though, I think if we got such honesty (and justice...sought by the Italian court) that helps puncture our illusions of righteous; though now in the USA the torture issue is Big Time and the red-necks just say: "Well, our enemy tortures; and what's wrong with torture if it saves American lives?"

??

We need to elect better leaders (and throw out the bad where and when we can). And other suggestions appreciated.

http://www.americancitizenstogether.org

I keep wondering how many of these historical details would have been anywhere near the public domain 10, or even 5 years ago. I'm sure many of the crimes committed
were done so with the presumption that with 'evidence' and witnesses destroyed, they would leave the scene clean. The 'Perfect crime' apart from supposed rumours and conjecture.
Then came the internet. It's potency could not have been imagined. There was too much evidence that was ignored due to to hubris, It takes one copy of a document, picture,statement, and it can be duplicated and be around the world in seconds. Tallied with supporting and conflicting evidence, and seen by anyone who can remember other accounts to contribu...

I keep wondering how many of these historical details would have been anywhere near the public domain 10, or even 5 years ago. I'm sure many of the crimes committed
were done so with the presumption that with 'evidence' and witnesses destroyed, they would leave the scene clean. The 'Perfect crime' apart from supposed rumours and conjecture.
Then came the internet. It's potency could not have been imagined. There was too much evidence that was ignored due to to hubris, It takes one copy of a document, picture,statement, and it can be duplicated and be around the world in seconds. Tallied with supporting and conflicting evidence, and seen by anyone who can remember other accounts to contribute to the picture They are finding there are holes in their arguments, that let the truth out, before they realize the holes are there.
They still seem to act as though no matter how damning the evidence, all that is needed is a denial, and silence.
They're wrong.
We're on to them.
I don't think some of them have the right to be called human.
The leaders today are walking into a pit.
They expect us to follow, and are prepared to try and drag us into the hole with them.
They can't see us. while they keep looking at their own reflections.
We can see them.

Beauty is skin deep
Ugly can go to the marrow.
The Law is an ass
War is an Elephant.