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arifsali says:
Go ahead, get scared!
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5-9-2008 5:45 PM
kmcolo
Nothing to worry about, they're only practicing.
5-9-2008 6:36 PM
Sheroug
Peek-a-boo!
5-10-2008 2:05 AM
michellezm
"Get scared"
Not in the least arifsali. The Christian church is overdue for some persecution. As we know, thoughout history, the Christian church is refined, purified and strengthened by it. It will certainly sifts out the wheat from the chaff.
5-10-2008 5:29 AM
Smarky
The math here is incorrect.

It fails to consider the amount of Muslims blowing themselves up in the name of prophet Mohammed the terrorist.

More will die protesting about random comic strips in fear they might actually laugh. Laugher kills muslims.

By 2035 the muslims would of wiped themselves out. And the rest will just give up cause they will realize it's stupid wearing towels on your head.
5-10-2008 6:46 AM
valann 47
I don't care how many there are just as long as they remember its their religion not mine.
5-10-2008 11:06 AM
arifsali
it's stupid wearing towels on your head.
LoL, you forgot to mention the long beards
5-10-2008 12:33 PM
Sheroug
I told myself I won't get into this. But a death in the family tends to get your head a bit screwed up.

@ Smarky
You can insult all you want, but get your facts straight. Attire (towels, as you say) has nothing to do with Islam. So pick, you're either insulting Islam or basically a great majority of Eastern & middle-Eastern countries.

5-10-2008 3:16 PM
arifsali
It will certainly sifts out the wheat from the chaff.
Very well said michellezm, I think Islam is also going through this transformation in contemporary times. This is nothing unusual from grand scheme of things, in fact, we know the consciousness level is rising throughout the world and it is better the religious dogmas (from all religions) go through their own recycle process.
5-10-2008 3:18 PM
Smarky
lol I mean no harm, I just think a lot of people need to lighten up. It's getting all to serious and ridiculous, people need to enjoy there life.

Religion is nonsense. I'm not denying the existence of god. I do not know about that. There is no way for me to know. And if "God" "Allah" or whatever wanted us to know then they damn well would.

Whatever the point of life is we somehow fuilfill that purpose by being alive, or else we wouldn't be here.

People need to stop getting so up tight. Religion has done an awful lot of harm to the world and individuals. It's a crouch for people that feel empty, an excuse for not living as yourself if you like. Religion is 100% fear based, yet claims to be the opposite, a lot like most marriages.
5-10-2008 5:12 PM
AcesLucky
Listen to these some of these comments! It's a us against "them" attitude no matter what. It's always been this way throughout history wherever religion is involved.

And you all wonder why the monkey in the middle "atheists, agnostics, freethinkers" stick our noses in other people's beliefs. It's because some believers will destroy the world just to prove their invisible sky god is the one true Being.

Of course, all He has to do is SHOW UP and tell everyone what's what. No muss, no fuss. (That is, in real life... not in a 2000 year old tale, but right now.)

Simple.

So why doesn't he? (Hint, hint.)

Perhaps in 30 years, so many people will have spoken up about this that we won't have to ...
5-10-2008 9:58 PM
papananook
creating fear about muslims is the "stupid" here. Muslims are just people. They want the same things as Christians--most want peace but some don't know where to find it. If the USA were REALLY a Christian nation, we wouldn't be in a perpetual war. Hypocrites.
5-12-2008 12:38 AM
RecordSage
What's there to be 'scared' of, arifsali? Are you implying that all of these people are terrorists? You should be promoting your spiritual leader and his deeds... if everyone in your community followed the man and his deeds - scary would be the last word on anyone's lips... it's extremely odd considering you follow the man that your lips uttered those words...
5-12-2008 5:49 PM
arifsali
RS, I was being sarcastic.
5-13-2008 1:35 AM
RecordSage
I realize that, but if you're trying to advance your cause - you have to pick your 'sarcasms'. I do agree with Smarky's math sentiments... but you already knew that... I doubt he was being sarcastic.
5-13-2008 4:04 AM
michellezm
Religion has done an awful lot of harm to the world and individuals. It's a crouch for people that feel empty
Ridiculous statement. Go to a third world country and see how vital is the work of religious people and organisations If the religious people pulled out of Africa, the continent would collapse. Most of you atheists are so ignorant, it's beyond irritating. You atheists sit on your couches flinging barbs at the religious of the world. I have yet to see an atheist orphanage open in Africa. I have yet to see an atheist feeding scheme for the poor. I have yet to see atheist clinics treating the sick and the injured. The atheists I have seen for the most part on Clip...
5-13-2008 4:18 AM
RecordSage
You tell 'em, michellezm! Right on the money!
5-13-2008 8:41 AM
AcesLucky
It's only been recent that Atheists organizations have been ALLOWED to operate in the open without being severely attacked by... you know who!

An atheist can't even run for public office in America, a supposedly secular government, because most voters being religious wouldn't give her the time of day.

I give monthly, automatically, to a Christian organization (Feed the Children) because they have an international outreach and the amount that goes to management is very acceptable.

I also give to a Christian organization because if I for one moment gave the same funds to a non-Christian organization I might be arrested for contributing to (thanks to Bush and the Christian right) a terrorist...
5-13-2008 10:37 AM
AcesLucky
@michellezm

Re: Atheism and Charity. Here are plenty examples and why you would never hear of them. Including Bill Gates and Warren Buffett, among the two largest charitable organizations and donors in American history (much of their work is in Africa).

The Red Cross was founded by freethinker/deist/universalist Clara Barton. Lance Armstrong for his anti-cancer charity.

Benjamin Franklin a freethinker (& is said to have been a deist) co-founded Pennsylvania Hospital (the first hospital in the US, according to that link) with a Quaker.

Freedom from Religion Foundation has received a 4-star rating from
Charity Navigato...
5-13-2008 3:07 PM
arifsali
I also give to a Christian organization because if I for one moment gave the same funds to a non-Christian organization I might be arrested for contributing to (thanks to Bush and the Christian right) a terrorist organization.
Huh?

You give to Christian organization because you relate yourself to them more than you may relate yourself to anyone else.
5-13-2008 3:21 PM
AcesLucky
You give to Christian organization because you relate yourself to them more than you may relate yourself to anyone else.
According to what that particular organization does, yes. They donate food where its really needed.

It is not the fact that they are Christian. They could be Atheist. It's what they DO, that I want done. Like the quote says, "God doesn't do charity, people do." Otherwise why would people need to do it?

Answer: so it'll get done.
5-13-2008 6:11 PM
arifsali
Not to discredit this particular Christian organization, but there are lots of other non-Christian organizations who does lot of good (and sometime with proportionally better management expenses) and many of them are not on the hit list of GWB. The point is, you give (not you in particular) to where you relate most. It is like being born in a family, being around in a community. Once you marry your family, your community, you can hardly divorce. And this is why religion (in my personal opinion) has mostly to do with your inner relationship with God (or call it deity, source, etc) than it has anything to do with any particular religious organization (be that Christian, Muslim or any other organized so called religion).
5-13-2008 7:04 PM
AcesLucky
I'm not sure I understand. I used to give to Meals on Wheels because they gave where it mattered to me, most. Then I upgraded to do the same on a broader level.

I identify with this need because at one time I was not only homeless but hungry. The Christian organization I tried to go to for food turned me away, not because of at the time, there were so many others that needed help, they simply couldn't. They didn't have enough to give.

I never once in my mind faulted them on any level. But the need for food when one is hungry can cause desperation, and I can identify with that circumstance.

The organization I give to has nothing whatsoever to do with religion. It's that they fill a need th...
5-13-2008 7:27 PM
arifsali
Surely you're not suggesting that I need a god to have empathy for others.
No, certainly not. God is a relative term here.
5-13-2008 7:51 PM
AcesLucky
Relative to what? Helping others?
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