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4-12-2007 3:06 PM676 views
egoldstein says:
Hmm...Leahy kind of makes a good point. These emails, which happened to be on a topic that is highly controversial, sent over a private email system that shouldn't have been being used, just totally disappeared. How about that?
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4-12-2007 3:31 PM
enbar
Yeah. How convenient. Just disappeared into the "series of tubes."
4-12-2007 6:56 PM
Socratoad
Of course they disappeared. Its not as if the White House has ever been known to lie.
4-12-2007 9:59 PM
n2sooners
What e-mails? Sounds to me like he just didn't find what he was hoping and wants to keep searching until he finds something. Here we are with the legislative branch basically saying they are going to do the same thing Nixon's people did during Watergate in broad daylight. They are going to issue a subpoena and then rifle through the other sides e-mails digging up any information they can find. Yet they feel that they are above any oversight even by the other two branches of government combined. The democrats are out of control. And all this in an investigation of a non-crime.
4-13-2007 4:12 PM
egoldstein
n2, i think if you look at this clip, you'll see that even the Bush administration is admitting that they screwed up. Unless you know something they don't, i'd say that your "what emails?" question doesn't hold up.
4-13-2007 4:42 PM
arifsali
Sounds to me like he just didn't find what he was hoping
You're right. We're at war, we should have rights to do dirty and immoral business via emails (and it seems we did) and these emails should disappear. Demoracts have no clue. We're at war.
4-13-2007 5:32 PM
n2sooners
The problem is while the right is at war with terrorists, the left is at war with the right.

My whole problem here is that THERE IS NO CRIME. This would be like them coming to your house and rifling through your e-mails because you fired your attorney. It isn't a crime. The legislative branch seems to think it has the right to rifle through DNC e-mails looking for dirt, but is above the law when it comes to a warrant asked for by the executive branch and approved by the judicial branch. We are supposed to have three equal branches of government. But if one is above being investigated by the other two put together than there is no equality.

They should really think about this precedent very...
4-14-2007 1:23 PM
enbar
n2sooners, I'm under the impression that the rules state that executive branch business is supposed to be conducted using the goverment's email servers, not equipment furnished by a partisan organization, so that messages can be archived and opened up to public inspection. After all, we, the taxpayers, paid for them, and those gentlemen and ladies work for us, not for the Republican Party. These folks have already admitted using outside email addresses to conduct executive branch business simply in order to avoid having their work become a matter of public record, which it procedurally and legally should be. At least that's my understanding.
4-14-2007 2:43 PM
n2sooners
What I have wondered about is what about e-mails that could go under either category? If you use the official e-mail, then you are using tax payer dollars on DNC or RNC business, but if you use the private e-mails, then you are conducting official business on non-official servers. Sounds like double jeopardy.

And the other question is why does the legislature have the power to single handedly rifle through all the executive branch e-mails on the hunch that maybe something was done wrong even though no crime was committed, but they feel they are above even a warrant issued by both other branches combined? And this was republicans as well as democrats who raised a fit over the Jefferson inve...
4-19-2007 10:16 PM
enbar
Maybe ... but firing US attys. is a pretty clearcut case.

With regard to your second point ... whatever. Congress is supposed to oversee. I don't get the sense that this is randomly rifling through papers -- isn't there already a fair amount of evidence suggesting that emails regarding these firings exist, or used to? -- but I don't really know. Asking to see documents regarding a case like this doesn't strike me as some kind of outrage.
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