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12-25-2007 9:49 AM1135 views
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His question became famously known as the Fermi Paradox. The paradox is the contradiction between the high estimates of the probability of the existence of extraterrestrial civilizations and yet the lack of evidence for, or contact with, any such civilizations.
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12-26-2007 10:49 AM
syncopath
maybe it's just a matter of time ? .. -))
12-26-2007 11:18 AM
obvious
Time is a factor in the Drake Equation, which estimates not just the number of detectable civilizations in the galaxy, but the number that are detectable at this time. I also like the time-travel variation on the Fermi Paradox: if time travel were possible, wouldn't we be stuffed with an infinite number of time travelers?
12-26-2007 11:57 AM
abailart
Maybe we are stuffed with an infinite number of time travellers....
12-26-2007 3:16 PM
rfnajera
Maybe... A) Time travelers can only go into the future, and/or B) Time travelers cannot go back to a point in time before the existence of the time travel devide.

Or maybe we are all alone.
12-26-2007 6:07 PM
Monkfishy
Or C) Time travelers are still limited by distance. Traveling in time would most likely not also mean traveling in physical space. I've often wondered if any UFO sightings really are valid, if they might not be from another time, instead of another place.

I don't know what all the Fermi Paradox takes into account, but if our own technological society is typical, I think there's also a high probability of the self-destruction of advanced civilizations. We've already seen that numerous times in our own history, and there's no sign that will change.
12-26-2007 10:24 PM
pokkets
There are so many pictures being recorded, yet the variation never seems to end. Whenever we see another closer view, it turns out to be another example of how the beauty of the universe will keep exceeding our imaginations.
The sort of thing that can make it absolutely clear that our brains will have trouble understanding even a minute fraction.
I figured the universe was big enough to have earned it's own clipcast.
Pictures of receding time, seem like the thing that most people identify with, yet can still continually be amazed.
We tend to develop our understanding sequentially,
For example, without the curiosity of Galileo, Newton, Curie,Rutherford, Planck, Tesla, amongst many others, a...
12-26-2007 10:41 PM
pokkets
We try and describe life in terms of our own perspective.
There is the idea that if there are aliens then they would have introduced themselves. Why?
There is no point in teaching a 3 year old calculus.
Understanding requires the development of reasoning in a personal and social manner that makes it impossible for it to be instilled by an outside influence.
There is the idea that if people as they are today went face to face with God, they would go insane. I'm sure the same principle applies to aliens. The trouble with insanity, is that the victim is usually the last one to know.
There is also the likelihood, that life which evolved elsewhere in the universe is subject to the same tyranny of...
12-27-2007 3:39 AM
mcgraf
From a galactic point of view, we are inhabiting an insignificant backwater little planet , on the edge of the galaxy , in a nondescript arm of the galaxy.Maybe the fact that we still have no evidence of other civilizations is because we are 'boring'. Perhaps out there beyond the Oort Cloud there is so much traffic that you can't go a parsec without hitting another spaceship or probe.
But here all is quiet because there is no reason to come here.
12-27-2007 3:13 PM
ActionJackson5188
Just because another planet might have evolved life (if indeed evolution is true) then that doesn't neccesarily mean that it evolved intelligent life intelligent enough to make spaceships or contact other planets. Even we haven't been able to contact other planets in other solar systems. We have only been able to send satellites. But not physically land any people on any other planet ourselves.
Which brings me to another question, is travel to another solar system even possible? Perhaps that's why. So this isn't anywhere near as much a paradox as it is. Not to mention that even if there was an alien civilization which somehow was intelligent enough to build spaceships which could travel lig...
12-29-2007 2:25 PM
papananook
I think "they" are here but are just waiting patiently for us to grow up enough to appreciate them...There IS some evidence of past help in fostering our growth...a transfer of consciousness, if you will...
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