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11-27-2008 5:03 PM
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masbury says:
Slaughter banned in the USA; humane society protests treatment of animals on the road.
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11-27-2008 6:34 PM
boniface
Lift the ban on slaughtering horses in the U.S. and the inhumane travel will be avoided. The only reason horses can't be eaten in the U.S. is because of religious dietary restrictions of the Judeo-Christian tradition.
11-29-2008 1:32 AM
Oortcloud
Why can't horse's be eaten? I can understand the attachment because people like to ride them and all, and I wasn't raised with horse-meat so I don't have a craving for it and might not be inclined to try it, but as far as food and protein goes, I don't see the problem.
11-29-2008 8:39 AM
boniface
I ate some horse when I was in France, during my navy days. It's good. The original and only reason not to eat horse meat, is the command in the Bible regarding animals that can be eaten. Evidently the god of the bible won't let you in heaven if you've eaten the wrong stuff.

Leviticus 11:3
"Among the animals, whatever divides the hoof, having cloven hooves and chewing the cud—that you may eat."

Leviticus 11:7
"and the swine, though it divides the hoof, having cloven hooves, yet does not chew the cud, is unclean to you."

Deuteronomy 14:6
"And you may eat every animal with cloven hooves, having the hoof split into two parts, and that chews the cud, among the animals."
11-29-2008 10:58 PM
masbury
Well, God as represented to the Hebrews', anyway - but that Jewish lawbreaker Simon Peter follows in the footsteps of that Jewish lawbreaker Jesus and follows a vision to the house of a Gentile, and things are never the same. God told him not only to regard food as clean, then, but also (wonderfully), people!

Though not, in the case of people, for eating!
11-29-2008 11:11 PM
masbury
and Oortcloud, I think the Humane Society's No. 1 grievance is the long trip, during which they are in miserable conditions and receive no food.
11-30-2008 12:11 AM
Oortcloud
I guess the solution would be to allow slaughter and preparation to happen in America then. Come to think of it, the reason the horses might be experiencing miserable conditions and poor food is because of the Humane Society - they are forcing the animals to be taken out of the country to be processed.

It's going to happen so the real humane thing to do is to allow it to happen locally to spare the animals the extended trip.
11-30-2008 12:41 AM
gingembre
Humans can be so heartless.
11-30-2008 2:18 AM
Oortcloud
Life is life. I'm sure that those who bemoan the deaths of specific "pretty" animals don't give a second thought to the billions of little lives lost in the bacteria or insect world. Plants are living things as well, but how often do you stop to reflect the pain and suffering a cabbage or an apple. Cows, chicken, pork - all these acceptable feed animals are no different than horses, cats, dogs or other "pet" type animals.

Life is life and the consumption of life is natural, not inhumane or heartless.
11-30-2008 10:49 AM
gingembre
Lack of empathy for the pain and fear experienced by other creatures is heartless, whether the "life" is consumed or terminated for "sport". Spare me the standard plant, insect and bacteria consumption argument used to justify atrocities committed in order for some humans to eat the flesh of sentient life forms. If life is life and the consumption of life is natural and humane, then why not butcher and consume tender little puppies, kittens and babies of all species, ours included? I guess it depends on where your position is along the graduated scale of sociopathy.

The issue here is lack of empathy and compassion for the creatures in our "care". The Golden Rule applies to our actions concerning all creatures at all times.
11-30-2008 3:07 PM
boniface
"The issue here is lack of empathy and compassion for the creatures in our 'care'."
I don't see that anyone responding here has "lacked empathy." Far from it, everyone has expressed concern for the pain that is being suffered by the horses.

"If life is life and the consumption of life is natural and humane, then
why not butcher and consume tender little puppies, kittens and babies
of all species, ours included?"
Now your argument has entered the realm of idiocy. The facts of the matter are, if you are alive, then you kill to eat and that the end of that, because there is no way to contest it. Killing humanely is the best way to do the killing that IS necess...
11-30-2008 5:45 PM
Oortcloud
If life is life and the consumption of life is natural and humane, then why not butcher and consume tender little puppies, kittens and babies of all species, ours included?
Indeed. Why not? Oh, we do. Eggs over easy or scrambled anyone? Veal sound good to you? Why not eat kittens or puppies? You don't tend to see that in many countries because they are pretty animals that are often found as pets - but just because we don't practice it doesn't mean its wrong.

Animals on an endangered species list are there, not because they are endangered, but are there because we, as humans, deem them endangered. Choosing not to eat cat or dog is not because there is something wrong in doing ...
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