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4-22-2007 8:51 AM
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cniq_cniq says:
Hmm....I had noticed this but never really gave it much thought. Good points.

Funny that the protests against religious expression never occur until a couple weeks or so after a tragedy like this. More than that you never see an atheist offering a shoulder to those who are suffering. These folk scatter faster at the outset of tragedy, when man's natural inclination is to turn to God, than do roaches at a the turning of a light switch. Suppose they are seeking similar dark corners?
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4-22-2007 9:23 AM
brazilnut72
To no one's surprise, Dawkins has not been invited to speak to the grieving Virginia Tech community.
LOL!
4-22-2007 10:01 AM
burnbright
i think that atheists probably stay away because they don't have anything comforting to say. talking about God, praying, etc. brings people comfort and maybe a sense of peace. maybe at least some of atheists are smart enough not to meddle with things like that.
4-22-2007 3:55 PM
Fracture
They're out doing something useful, like volunteering their time or money. Not standing around in groups praying and performing other pointless rituals.
4-22-2007 4:03 PM
egoldstein
To me, this is a perfect example of people with differing opinions painting with too broad a brush. Just like any other group of people, their are those who believe in God who good people and those who are not good people. And of the people who don't believe in God, some are good people and some are bad. To cast such a wide net in describing either side is shortsighted and divisive in my opinion.

Personally, i don't see how anyone can be so certain about either perspective. I happen to not believe in god, but i certainly think it's a mystery that's beyond my ability to know. I just wish people more people would have greater tolerance for those who see things differently. Talk about so...
4-22-2007 6:01 PM
taksmaster
4-22-2007 11:11 PM
laceym
Maybe if they were wearing a scarlet letter they'd be easier to identify.
Atheist are nowhere to be found
What do they look like? You can look in a crowd of a few hundred people and tell me there are no atheist?
Dawkins has not been invited to speak
Why would they invite a biologist to speak? Was the Pope invited?
4-24-2007 12:31 PM
laceym
D’Souza is a hate-peddler. Sometime back in his life he discovered that he can acquire fame and fortune by manufacturing hate and selling it in the press. Or maybe he just discovered that he enjoyed hate-peddling. The virtues of truth and fairness are far beyond his grasp.
Yet, unfortunately, we live in a culture that cherishes the products of the hate-peddler, so D’Souza has indeed found a route to at least some measure of notoriety and wealth.
It is because our society pays hate-peddlers so well, in terms of cash, honor, and respect, that we have so many of them. If one were to think that a society would be better off without hate-peddlers – if one were to think that their contribution to ...
4-24-2007 1:46 PM
clipette
I think Dawkins has some wonderfully elegant thoughts about what it means when bad things happen to us. He says:
we have to grow up and learn that we are alone on our own in the cosmos, that we can make of our lives what we will when misfortunes happen to us, as they will form time to time don't cast around for somebody to blame. Take responsibility for rising above it, take responsibility for carrying on with life in spite of the setbacks and the heartbreak. Don't say why did this have to happen to me? It just happened.
4-24-2007 1:55 PM
clipette
it
is even more difficult for atheism to deal with the problem of evil.
The reason is that in a purely materialist universe, immaterial things
like good and evil and souls simply do not exist. For scientific
atheists like Dawkins, Cho's shooting of all those people can be
understood in this way--molecules acting upon molecules.
If this is the best that modern science has to offer us, I think we need something more than modern science.
and if the best religion has to offer us is "good" and "evil" I think I'll stick with molecules.
4-24-2007 7:10 PM
pokkets
The news reports what it sees and hears, I don't think it be good taste for an atheist to proclaim their opinion at a catastrophe. Helping someone has to be constructive and practical. Personal opinions can mean less than the companionship of anyone who cares, or offers hope of recovery Sometimes the most comforting words are only heard by the victim.
4-24-2007 7:27 PM
crdz9802
They're out doing something useful, like volunteering their time or
money.
To that my response is simply read this.
4-25-2007 12:35 PM
luminaeris
It is an unfair question. To balance it, we must also ask: Where is Buddhism when bad things happen? and Hinduism? and Christianity? and Taoism? and... the list goes on.

Everybody normally grieves for what happened in the Virginia Tech shootings. There's just different ways of showing it, or not showing it at all.

Maybe, the question should have been stated:
When bad things happen, who/what is "more" comforting?

If you ask me, explaining bad happenings in molecules is not so comforting. It's just me.
4-25-2007 1:47 PM
laceym
"Molecules" is the word D' Souza used. I don't think any non-theist would try to use that as comfort.

If it is comfort you are looking for, would a lie be better?

“Don’t grieve, Ms. Smith. Your daughter is not really dead. No, she hopped onto a plane with 31 of her friends and flew off to Tahiti. Sure, she’s having the time of her life – all expenses paid. Yes, she’s safe. She is well chaperoned and nothing bad can happen to her there. No, I’m afraid that you can’t contact her. Tahiti does not have phone service. No, I’m afraid it doesn’t have internet service either. Yes, you’ll see her again. We’re making arrangements to send you to Tahiti as well – all expenses paid.”
4-28-2007 3:53 AM
SFdixit
5-1-2007 8:39 AM
tabsey
I don't think a tragedy should be used in an attempt to cause argument by a self serving hypocrite. I would never burn a book but this article .........
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