# What is the origin of the universe? Spacetime itself and all the mass-energy in it were created in the Big Bang some 15 billion years ago. Humans are beginning to understand how the laws of physics allowed for the Big Bang to happen, and are even proposing reasons why the laws of physics have to be as they are. However, it may not be knowable why the laws of physics exist at all. # What is the mechanism of the universe? The universe consists of fermions and bosons interacting through gravity, electromagnetism, and the strong and weak nuclear forces. Humans can accurately model those interactions using General Relativity and the Standard Model of particle physics, and m... # What is the origin of life? Life based on ribonucleic and amino acids arose on Earth four billion years ago as a result of auto-catalytic chemical processes of increasing complexity. Humans are only beginning to understand the details of these processes and how improbable they might have been. # What is the mechanism of life? Life on earth operates according to the basic principles of biochemistry and develops through evolution by natural selection. Humans will long be filling in the details of molecular and cellular biology and tracing the history of evolution. # What is the fate of life? Due to senescence or chance, individual organisms eventually die; and d... * What is the origin of mind? Intelligence developed slowly over the last million or two years among social post-arboreal omnivorous tool-using bipedal primates, resulting in language by 50 Kya or 100 Kya. Humans are investigating precisely how intelligence evolved on earth, how improbable it was, and whether it has arisen elsewhere. Humans may never develop definitive answers to these questions. * What is the mechanism of mind? The human mind is the result of electrochemical neural processes in the human brain, and artificial minds seem producible from simpler functional components. Detailed understanding of mental mechanisms will require lots of engineering and ... So, i God doesn't exist (a non sense question) then atheists shouldn't exist either. Besides the question of God, can science explain love? So, i God doesn't exist (a non sense question) then atheists shouldn't exist either.Do you understand what atheism means? A true athiest would not acknowledge let alone participate in a discussion of religion. A true athiest would see no issue or find no argument because to them it is a non-issue, worthy of no thought or deliberation. If God didn't exist atheists wouldn't exist either. Why bother spending time to deny something that does not exist? If God's existence can not be proven by science because it is not a worthy subject matter to look into does that prove that He does not exist? Science is slow (to say the least). The proof? How long did it take to prove that the earth was round? How many more centuries will it take to prove the Darwin theory? Don't confuse religion (the organized set of beliefs in a higher power or the divine) with the existence of God. They are related but not the same thing. In fact an atheist would be interested in debunking a belief system based on a falsehood (as they see it). So an atheist can question why others choose to believe and impress that belief on others based on something that does not exist. It is because religion exist that atheism exist. Those that deny the central tenets of established religions (the existence of the divine) are atheist. So your statements have no logical value. As for evolution, go to the nearest museum of natural history and see the proof. What do you mean not to confuse religion with sets of beliefs? Any religion is like any science dedicated to the study of an object (divinity) and just like any science, there are some who have made mistakes (intentional or not). Why is it that atheism exists if religion exists? Can a negative come from a positive? Who is being logical here? With regards to evolution, there is nothing that proves that one species came from another. Science which is supposed to be empirical has no tangible data that supports that "jump" in quality of species. A real athiest. Doesn't believe in religion (Non-theist). If truly atheist, would not have the need to bunk or debunk any religion because it would not matter. When one feels they must debunk a religion they have a need to prove their own beliefs and that makes them a theist of something. True atheism (a complete belief in no religion at all) deals with reality and facts, dismisses conjecture and forms no associations in the bonds of faith. If you feel you need to argue religious beliefs you are not atheist but more of a reserved theist with doubts. You won't find a true atheist in a religious disscussion. It is a non-issue not worthy of thought or prose. You likely wouldn't find many at ... Swirlinator, That was cute! Especially the one about the cows. Interesting to think that real atheism won't intervene into religious debates. It's nice to have the other pseudo-atheists who are "open" to debate (if they can stay cool). So if your adult son and his friends seriously believed in Santa you wouldn't think it worth talking about. OK. You'd have nothing to say when your politicians went to war in the name of The invisible Pink Unicorn. If God does not exist, how convenient for us!! Mankind has no one to be accountable to except himself. And we all know how accountable each of us is to one another. Sitting in our warm, comfortable homes, surrounded by the spoils of Empire, watching Iraqi civilians dodging bullets and children starving in Africa on our televisions.......... "Life is Grand!! Just keep the riffraff out of my way!" Are you seriously suggesting that it is the religious out fighting against injustice and war while non-believers sit apathetically at home? As atheists we are responsible to each other, not some magic man-in-the-sky. We have one life , one world - nothing waiting for us after death. We need to make this life as good as wonderful and as full of love as we can. Celebrating the wonder of each individual human being and humanity as a whole. Don't fall into a trap of thinking that if a person does not have a religion, then Sorry. Wrong link. I meant this one What do you mean not to confuse religion with sets of beliefs? Any religion is like any science dedicated to the study of an object (divinity) and just like any science, there are some who have made mistakes (intentional or not). Religion is not like science. It does not study anything, it simply proposes a set dogma of belief, and pre-made answer to the universe around us based on the belief. And I said that you don't confuse the existence of the divine with a believe in the divine. I mean people believe in a lot of things that are not true, or real. These belief systems exist because people need them, and in no way shape or form prove or disprove the existence of a divine being or beings.... Are you seriously suggesting that it is the religious out fightingNot at all! No. I am just suggesting that, if there is no God, there is no reason to be civil. I am just suggesting that, if there is no God, there is no reason to be civil.Nonsense. Please read my other comment. So all of you who believe in Jesus, Allah, Vishnu, whoever are civil? It doesn't seem that way to me. I believe in humanity, society and community - a very good reason to be civil. No god necessary. No, just the mere fact of the existence of a god. I don't say the religious are any more just, humane or civil than the non-religious. You said "if there is no God, there is no reason to be civil", I said "nonsense" and explained why. Do you concede that I have no god and have good reason to be civil? As atheists we are responsible to each other, not some magic man-in-the-sky. We have one life , one world - nothing waiting for us after death. We need to make this life as good as wonderful and as full of love as we can. Celebrating the wonder of each individual human being and humanity as a whole.Spot on, Elfrida! Yes. I just think that those who don't believe in God and hold all the power in this world will destroy it eventually. Just as easily as by anyone who does. Maybe you are right. I didn't think of it that way. LOL, I opened a can of worms didn't I? If you met an alien and could communicate, how much interest would he have in any human religion? And before you warn me that there are no aliens better check your Bible again. "other worlds" wold be a great search term to start with. A true athiest will not strike out to converse or debate religion. I am NOT an athiest or a wannabe athiest. Just a confused man trying to see both sides of the argument Has anyone noticed that some people are very passionate about their atheism? To what end? Well, till after the cows come home. of coarse Ha-Haaaa...I like that!!!! Ok. I have hear it said that the big bang theory and evolution can disprove God. However, those 2 theories have more in common with the Bible than what you would think. 1. Big bang theory states that before the bang the world was empty nothingness...kind of like the book of Genesis, Coincidence? 2. evolution pretty much says that Man evolved from the ground up...kinda like in the book of Genesis states that God made man from the ground...whos to say God is not in control of the process? I find it hard to believe that life spontaneously appeared out of nowhere with out an outside source. I also find it to be more than coincidence that the Earth of all the planets by sheer luck happened to... Since non of you chicken hearted atheists cannot respond to my logic or explain the elaborate outlandish way that the world came to be.....all on its own I suppose the Question begs to be asked, If there is a God then who should be worshiped? Simple, Jesus, C'mon, out of all the major religions who not only gave but served his worshipers? Jesus Christ, he washed away our sins with his blood (so that everybody who had faith in him is not only promised but guaranteed a spot in heaven no less) , who else died for his worshipers? That's right nobody else. So for all non believers who may read this I have only this to say, If i am wrong when I die I get blissful nothingness, if you are wrong you ... That is called Pascal's wager , it has been around for ages and the flawed logic and reasoning behind it has been demonstrated many times. So when you can come up with an argument a little better than that and can refrain from throwing insults this "chicken hearted atheist" would be happy to debate with you. As you probably won't bother to read anything from the link above here are just two of the many flaw's in your argument: How do you know which God to believe in? There are plenty to choose from, and if you pick the wrong one, you could be in big trouble (e.g. what if you choose Jesus, but ge... Ok fair enough, to a point. You missed one of my points completely however. That being that of all the gods there are to worship Christ is the only one who died for his followers, he is the only "deity" that actually gave something which is the main difference between him and all other "gods" which is my whole reasoning for choosing Christ as the God that I follow. I only used the phrase chicken hearted atheist to ruffle feathers and prompt a response to my earlier comment. Since you seem to be atheist I ask this, does my remark about the earth and all life on earth needing an outside source to get started (assuming that the evolution is 100% accurate) make any sense to you at all? C'mon n... Even in Christianity there is references to 'Other Worlds' I don't remember where in the Bible but I remember it is in the Bible. Perhaps someone could look? As for Spontaneous Life on this planet. I don't believe life is indigeonus to this planet. I believe life has seeded on all the planets but this one is the only one geographically stable enough to allow it to flourish. As for 'Sacrifice'. It strikes me as odd that a benevolent, merciful and loving God would need any kind of sacrifice. The whole idea of needing a sacrifice offers up nothing but contempt for the whole idea. Is it possible that the whole idea of sacrifice is so religious types can justify the hard realities of life. As... Ahh, but see that's the beauty of it all! We have no way of knowing it to the point of it being tangible. Now don't get the wrong idea about be, i'm not a know-it-all blow hard trying to shove my faith in anyone's face however do you not find it to be loving and merciful to send ones (God) only son do die as a sacrifice for all of our sins? As for life being seeded in all planets I assume that that you think life itself is not a living organism as much as it is a potential for said living organism to exist. Even in the giant gas planets life could exist...in theory at least. I suppose one would be arrogant to believe that in an infinitely big universe that Earth has the only life...that... So I guess death is the only way of truly knowing. With all probability leaning toward an outside force in the universe (at least the way I see things to be) one has to believe in something. That is why I chose the "deity" who sounds to be the most giving and the most rewarding. Its late so until tomorrow this debate is paused. ps. JESUS FREAKIN RULES!!! As you say, according to some bronze aged goat-herder's myths, Jesus died for our sins. But let's think about just how big a sacrifice this really was: Jesus is crucified, a nasty death no doubt but nowhere near as nasty, long and protracted as the deaths God thinks it's perfectly OK to inflict on millions of humans (including children) through disease, starvation, natural disaster etc. What's more he gets his son back in a couple of days and gets to have him with him for eternity - as as an all-powerful being I think he should just be able to stand the suffering, don't you? - not much of a sacrifice. Also, please explain, is he sacrificing himself (there is only one god in your view I tak... The knowledge of good and evil gives us the ability to choose one or the other. Without it, there is no free will. Do you want your children to love you because that is all they know how to do , or because they choose to? I am not talking about the difference between right and wrong. I mean God-created evil like the ebola virus for example, or a tsunami that wipes out hundreds of thousands of innocents. I repeat (with modification) Is God willing to prevent ebola, but not able? Then he is impotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Why then is there ebola?” Well, according to scripture, man CHOSE this fate by eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil which he was instructed not to do and was told what would happen if'n he did eat from it. The Garden of Eden, which man was ejected from, had no Ebola. So, maybe it was man who was being 'malevolent' towards his offspring and CHOSE to be 'impotent' by his disobedient act of eating from the tree. This leads me to see that my statement earlier about free will was incorrect. Adam and Eve?? Well now you're just being silly. Anyway - so who created ebola and why? JohnWaterman, Adam and Eve should not be dismissed as silly. Perhaps your statement about God letting people suffer holds no water when it is pointed out that mankind disobeyed God's will and chose our fate, this pretty much erases your flawed logic. Yes God is all loving but man chose to disobey, not God refuses to stop all suffering. Furthermore God does not make viruses or tsunamis, for our disobedience we now have to live in nature instead of the Garden of Eden...nature is what happened. Evolution of micro organisms and plate tectonics is what happened. Earth is our punishment. That said you are wrong about Jesus, it is documented he was a real person who lived under that name. You don'... OK, I could have been politer at times, for which I apologise. But I cannot see where I was preaching about anything. I asked a few questions. But ending this here is fine by me. The virus was invented by Frank E. Bola in 1863 in what is now Buffalo, New York. Rumor has it that he was searching for a way to get rid of his wife without leaving a trace behind for the cops. Unfortunately, his wife mistook the concoction for powdered eggs and served them one Sunday morning much to Mr. Bola's chagrin. Frank's body was discovered by a bomb-sniffing dog that was taken for a ride. We don't know why, but his wife was never seen again in Good Spirits, a pub they frequented. Nor could she explain why she married in the first place knowing full well that all guys are jerks anyways. Why would a secure God place temptation in front of his creation in the first place? To allow man free will without the knowledge of good and evil is a contradiction. Sorry Kat but I'm not sure if you're joking or not. In case you're not Ebola virus , a member of a family (Filovirus) of viruses that cause hemorrhagic fevers. The virus, named for the region in Congo (Kinshasa) where it was first identified in 1976, emerged from the rain forest, where it survives in as yet unconfirmed hosts, possibly several species of fruit bats. The virus can be fatal to chimpanzees and gorillas as well as humans. Three strains of the virus, which are found in Africa, cause hemorrhagic fever; the fourth, found in the W Pacific, does not There is a river Ebola in northern Congo. But there are many viruses to ... Yes,joking. Sorry. JohnWaterman, I too should have been politer for which I also apologize. The point I was pushing was not that you HAVE to believe the way I do, but to try to match science with the bible. That said, look, I am not opposed to debate, I am willing to drop the abrasiveness if you are. |
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