 BitDrifter says: Updated down to: 32 dead via cnn. Updated to: 33 Dead via Wiccan Updated With Timeline: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/18138327 via Wiccan. Updated to: 32 Dead via yanksrule. Updated to: 31 Dead via Wiccan, and Skwirl. So far no word on who he was or why this happened. The death toll is up to 22 and the reporter on MSNBC just said "It's like a sporting event... It's remarkable. It's an amazing time to be a reporter." TV just got turned off. God I hate the news. Incomprehensible. The values of our children are reflected in our homes and vice-versa. Its up to 31 dead now... 31 dead, and news is reporting that the gunman went in with two handguns, then took his own life. Updated title, thanks skwirl and wiccan. 32 dead i live in roanoke va.i was shocked to here that. deadliest campus shooting in us history After I looked for the article I was amazed that there was only one clip. I was getting ready to clip it when I say yours. I was going to title mine 'Gunman Kills More Students' This clipcomment is being updated as I type. Great job BitDrifter! What I do not understand is how does two hands, two guns and one human being could kill so many people? One explanation: sophisticated and easily available guns. You add your own explanation. If it was crowded: One shot:two kills Keep this popped to the top all day! Watch live via WSLS TV. How many lives could have been saved were Americans not so paranoid about law-abiding citizens carrying? The gunman could have been taken out after the first shot was fired. You mean, the students should have packed one in their backpack? Knew it was coming. Plenty of teachers around. Any certified adult could have done the job. What I want to know is, how could one gunman with two handguns (which had to be reloaded) take out so many people without being stopped? ABC News reports that local police state two 9mm semi-automatic pistols may have been used, and the gunman was possibly wearing a bulletproof vest. you have a good point wiccan, where was the security which should have been beefed up knowing Columbine all too well. We will find answers to all these sooner or later. Political bickering aside, there is nothing wrong in contemplating the cause and reasons of any tragedy as long as we remain civil in our conversation....just a side note on where I see n2 wants to take this debate. I am sick of rampant gun crime in the USA. There are far too many guns period. A gun has become a friggin' fashion accessory. I went into a shopping mall in North Carolina and was shocked to see a sign that had the icons for no dogs, no guns. NO GUNS???!!! Why the hell would you need a gun to go to the mall? How have Americans come to see the need to carry firearms in your daily life as normal? Guns are for killing people. When I was a kid, the only people who "needed" guns were policemen and farmers. This is disgusting deplorable, and i don't care if all of the Bush loving, NRA Conservatives get a flea up their bottoms and reply with fear-mongering reasons why we need the freedom to kill... This is hardly an example of "rampant gun violence." It was a single gunman with an obvious personal agenda. Yes, guns are for killing people. Law-abiding citizens carrying guns can kill the predator before 31 people die. There is no "normal life." There's just life. And a civilized society protects the next generation. BTW, I'm an anti-Bush Libertarian who supports bearing arms for every citizen who becomes certified and is not certifiable. Even with security not beefed up, the response time seems entirely too slow. The massacre took place at opposite sides of the 2,600-acre campus, Police said they were still investigating the shooting at the dorm when they got word of gunfire at the classroom building. 33 as of a press conference at 4:45 Severe mental illness can not be ruled out as the reason for the shootings. I don't think it's a reflection on current society values any more than the Texas tower shootings were in 1966. http://www.crimelibrary.com/notorious_murders/mass/whitman/index_1.html I would hope that campus security is beefed up big time after this horrific, tragic, and unnecessary loss of life. I also hope that there is more money spent on student services, especially mental health. I also feel the utmost empathy for the parents and family of the victims. There is nothing worse than a loss of a child for a parent. shooter was an asian male heaviely armed. he shot himself. Peoplewere jumpingout of 2 store windows and sometimes 4 mstore windows to escape the shooter where you getting all this info? perhaps someone can post a good blog source, I have been checking newsvine and such, don't see much out there. i live in roanoke so i watch the local news toget teh lastest news. go to wdbj7.com "All I can tell you is that he's a male," Flinchum said, giving no details of his age or nationality. --Reuters. Above indication of Asian seems rumors to me at this point in time. Students who were shot called into MSNBC from hospitals; confirmed Asian male in his 20s. He never spoke; just started shooting. Check out the video on their web site. A Suicide Bomber with a precision hit list? Lets see if this gunman has ties. Lets see who claims what. Do you feel terrorized? I just read that, I don't see no Asian word anywhere, let's not spread rumors, I can see that digg is littered with it. "Asian" is in the article, and in the news video where they are talking with the student. "Sky also reported one witness describing a gunman as Asian, wearing a vest with an "ungodly" amount of ammunition, firing at will. The student newspaper has quoted a victim who described the shooter as an Asian male in his twenties wearing a maroon hat and a black coat." Source: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/worldnews.html?in_article_id=448955&in_page_id=1811&ct=5 "He was said to have quarreled in a dormitory with his girlfriend, whom he believed had been seeing another man. A student adviser was called to sort out the fight. But the killer produced a gun and shot dead both his girlfriend and the adviser.... " Source: http://www.drudgereport.com Well, the latest is that the officials will not limit it to one shooter and that no one knows *yet* if this situation is not associated to the bomb threats. AND no one is saying the #2 shooter, who is dead, is the same as the #1 shooter. Very interesting.... Lots of speculation and no FACTS yet. Nothing is confirmed. A very sad day but I wonder why we are always shocked when these terrible things happen to *us*. We never know what the day holds for any of us and today is a stark reminder that life is so uncertain. I'm not shocked, It's sad. The gunman in Monday's Virginia Tech campus shootings has been identified as Cho Seung-Hui, 23, a student and native of South Korea, campus police chief Wendell Flinchum said. The Virginia State Police say ballistics tests show one of the guns found after the deadly shootings at Virginia Tech was used in both the dorm and the classroom building Interesting to note that Facebook is turning out to be a major internet player. And MySpace as well. Darn it all, my obsession LiveJournal didn't even make it into the mix. So I'm assuming it is legal to buy guns in Virginia? ABC News seems all over it and I don't blame them, the murderer had a receipt in his backpack. I guess 23 is a sane age to buy guns. Apparently, there was a gun show recently in the area where over 400 guns were sold. And 23 can be a perfectly sane age to buy guns, when the individual is not treated as a child until they're 30. My own 24-yr-old college daughter is looking at firearm training. CBS News has learned one of the guns used in the massacre -- a 9MM semi-automatic Glock 19 -- was purchased brand new at a Roanoke, Va. gunshop, Roanoke Firearms, 36 days ago. In case of " shooting " (shooting taking place in a school, a post office, a company or directly in the premises of CNN as recently), European media have generally a title every fact: "This shooting boosts the debate on firearms in the United States." Believe nothing ! It has been hours since TVs cover the shooting of Virginia Tech. It was question nowhere of the problem of the control of firearms. Cf : http://clesnes.blog.lemonde.fr/etatsunis/ CBS News has learned a search of the Virginia Tech gunman's apartment produced eight pages of notes which law enforcement sources characterize as a suicide note. They say the writings "appear to be a manifesto." Police say Virginia Tech shooting Cho-Shun-We is believed to have sent a manifesto, multiple photos and video to NBC News which were apparently mailed after his first shootings but before his second shootings, two hours later. A teacher tried to get him help. She tried to get him to get mental help. She reported him to police, but he hadn't done anything wrong at the time. Two girls reported that he had harassed them. We've all been harassed by creeps. From what I've been reading and hearing, there really wasn't anything anyone could do. There are many more like him out there ready to explode. God help us. My mother is a social worker, and she says the biggest obstacle in such cases is that, until the person actually physically harms someone, the law binds anyone who might actually commit such individuals involuntarily. Yet you can lock away a family member in an institution for observation. Imagine what would happen if a coworker, boss or teacher could have you locked away for observation because you have a 'bent' personality. Noone would be safe. Observation for 72 hours. Even a mental case is very able to hold it together for that long. However, if they are not deemed a viable threat, they are cut loose. Also, you cannot lock away a family member just by asking. There must be written documentation of problems, etc. The system is simply too swamped to do otherwise. |
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