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10-9-2007 3:28 AM197 views
merrie says:
Dutch society became, and remains, bitterly divided in the wake of the Van Gogh murder. Some of Hirsi Ali's compatriots decided it was time to address the issues of women, Islam and integration head on. The Dutch writer Leon de Winter, a defender of Hirsi Ali, talks openly about his country's failure to integrate Muslim immigrants, attributing the problem to the Dutch "guilt complex": "As soon as we let people from the Third World come here to work in our rich country, we . . . somehow saw them as sacred victims."
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10-9-2007 3:33 AM
merrie
"Compare her description of Islam as "brutal, bigoted, fixated on controlling women" with the German judge who, citing the Koran, in January told a Muslim woman trying to obtain a divorce from her violent husband that she should have "expected" her husband to deploy the corporal punishment his religion approves"
10-9-2007 4:11 AM
davboz
I just read an article by a more mainstream "popular" islam magazine which, while not in a radical 'fatwa' sense,they were not real happy about Hirsi and they fairly well trashed her.
http://www.islamicamagazine.com/Issue-20/Reading-Rubbish.html
It IS too bad that those of us less familiar with, but at the same time, more realistic about even the less radical elements of Islam, still can't REALLY know "where they're at when it really comes down to it. If that made sense.
Sounds as if the judge is come to represent just what she informs us of.
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